Daniel_AnglumTM

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I have read over the past year with some interest a lot of the speculation about the origins of Christianity.

I agree that there is a tiny ammount of evidence that Jesus ever existed and that based on the documents in the Gosepels alone.

Yet there is a problem with the arguement, the entire Jesus myth has been dismantled to such an extent that there is only a vague outline of a Historical Jesus. I have spent a lot of time researching the real King Arthur, but we know so little about him that you simply cannot prove he didnt exist because you are likely to run into a Warlord in 6th Century Britain, who may have won victories over the Saxons.

This is much like Jesus now we have a man who is simply a Preacher aganist the Purity system in the Temple, and who wanted to create a Utopia is this really that unique?. In fact based on this arent we likely to find someone like this, I mean if only 2% of Rabbis (for that was what he was) rebelled in someway aganist Jewish law, then we would still have a large number. So The Jesus myth cannot be disproved because robbed of the essentials that have shaped the Myth there is nothing left, that is unique to Jesus and could be any number of people.

The only piece of evidence that could make Jesus unique would be the cruci"fiction" as I do not believe this ever happened. It is simply a metaphor, which was singularly used as a symbol of the central message of Christianity by the presence of a lamb on the cross rather than a person.

Anyway any feedback would be interesting....

Mageth

The only piece of evidence that could make Jesus unique would be the cruci"fiction" as I do not believe this ever happened.

If a large number of Rabbis rebelled against Jewish law, and (as we know) a large number of people (including Jews) were crucified by the Romans, then is it not unreasonable to expect that the intersection of these two sets is not empty? In other words, that at least some rebellious Rabbis were also crucified?

That said, if one rebellious Rabbi was crucified, then it's possible that more than one was crucified, so one couldn't argue the crucifiction was unique.

But then, perhaps you were referring to the resurrection...

Radcliffe Emerson

I for one fully believe Jesus the human being existed.
I just don't believe ANYTHING in a written book about miraculous, divine occurences or interventions.

Daniel_AnglumTM

That is a rather dogmatic line to take really, as the Bible is a very large book and must have at least a basis of truth on SOME of the events otherwise esps Old Testemant Histories I doubt that the knowledge of these wars could have been completely fabricated.
I think that the bible is more of use as Anthropology than History, as it does tell us a lot about the societies.

lpetrich

I would not want to make an absolute statement like that. The Iliad, the story of an episode in the Trojan War, has lots of examples of divine intervention in that war, but there had been a city at the location it describes Troy as having been.