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Skid · 02-05-2002, 10:14 AM

<a href="http://www.nationaldayofprayer.org" target="_blank">National Day of Prayer</a>: To Whom are we praying??

According to <a href="http://www.vcyamerica.org/ct-archive.html" target="_blank">these</a> guys, God is not going to bless us if we ignore the name of Jesus:

Quote:

"We are not a Judeo-Christian nation, we are a CHRISTIAN nation"

I realize the Day of Prayer is "voluntary", but it appears that even religious groups can't agree on the "proper" prayer.

Have there been any legal challenges to this event? The NDP website indicates that it was established in 1952.

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bonduca · 02-05-2002, 10:26 AM

*sob*
That is really touching.
*sob*
On May 2, 2002, I solemnly vow to kneel and perform an act of worship.

Toto · 02-05-2002, 10:27 AM

AU fulminates against it every year, but there's no advantage to anyone to actually challenge it.

<a href="http://www.au.org/press/pr5-5.htm" target="_blank">Americans United for Separation of Church and State press release from 1998</a>

<a href="http://www.au.org/press/pr5201.htm" target="_blank">Press release from 2001</a>

The only politician to no support a Day of Prayer lately has been Jesse Ventura.

scombrid · 02-05-2002, 10:33 AM

Damnit. My sound card is fried so I can't listen to crosstalk.

hezekiah jones · 02-05-2002, 10:38 AM

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Originally posted by scombrid:
Damnit. My sound card is fried so I can't listen to crosstalk.

LOL! Get it fixed and listen to "1/31/02 Ingrid Schlueter: Classical Christian Education" before they take it down.

Skid · 02-05-2002, 10:46 AM

Toto - Thanks for the links.

scombrid: Since your soundcard is broke

, I'll summarize for you:

ALL of the founding fathers were CHRISTIAN, believers in the ONE, TRUE, TRIUNE God. Therefore, this is a CHRISTIAN nation.

All you heathen Jews, Muslims, Wiccans (w/boiling cauldrons) need not apply.

simian · 02-05-2002, 10:55 AM

If there is a NDOP event on the campus where I work, I do hereby commit to get in the line to get in front of the microphone and say a simple prayer: "Dear Lord, if You existed, I would ask you to protect me from the zealots who believe in you and do evil in Your name."

Assuming, of course, it is similar to events I am aware of in the past where there was a stage set up with a microphone (this was not done last year, much to my pity).

Has anybody done anything of this sort, or contemplated it in the past?

Many thanks to whoever in cyberspace first forwarded the proposed "official school prayer": "Dear Lord, protect me from thine followers."

bonduca · 02-05-2002, 11:02 AM

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Has anybody done anything of this sort, or contemplated it in the past?

Umm...I got thrown out of one of those revival-in-a-tent things once. But it was a very long time ago.

Anunnaki · 02-05-2002, 11:08 AM

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ohwilleke · 02-06-2002, 06:39 AM

1952! It figures. "In God We Trust" on coins, "under God" in the pledge of allegiance, and the national day of prayer, all in the span of a few years.

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02-05-2002, 10:26 AM	#2
bonduca Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: . Posts: 1,653	sob That is really touching. sob On May 2, 2002, I solemnly vow to kneel and perform an act of worship.

02-05-2002, 10:27 AM	#3
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	AU fulminates against it every year, but there's no advantage to anyone to actually challenge it. <a href="http://www.au.org/press/pr5-5.htm" target="_blank">Americans United for Separation of Church and State press release from 1998</a> <a href="http://www.au.org/press/pr5201.htm" target="_blank">Press release from 2001</a> The only politician to no support a Day of Prayer lately has been Jesse Ventura.

02-05-2002, 10:33 AM	#4
scombrid Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Central Florida Posts: 2,759	Damnit. My sound card is fried so I can't listen to crosstalk.

02-05-2002, 10:46 AM	#6
Skid Regular Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 191	Toto - Thanks for the links. scombrid: Since your soundcard is broke , I'll summarize for you: ALL of the founding fathers were CHRISTIAN, believers in the ONE, TRUE, TRIUNE God. Therefore, this is a CHRISTIAN nation. All you heathen Jews, Muslims, Wiccans (w/boiling cauldrons) need not apply.

02-05-2002, 10:55 AM	#7
simian Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: St. Louis, MO area Posts: 1,924	If there is a NDOP event on the campus where I work, I do hereby commit to get in the line to get in front of the microphone and say a simple prayer: "Dear Lord, if You existed, I would ask you to protect me from the zealots who believe in you and do evil in Your name." Assuming, of course, it is similar to events I am aware of in the past where there was a stage set up with a microphone (this was not done last year, much to my pity). Has anybody done anything of this sort, or contemplated it in the past? Many thanks to whoever in cyberspace first forwarded the proposed "official school prayer": "Dear Lord, protect me from thine followers."

02-05-2002, 11:08 AM	#9
Anunnaki Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: I`ve left and gone away Posts: 699	[ February 09, 2002: Message edited by: Anunnaki ]</p>

02-06-2002, 06:39 AM	#10
ohwilleke Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Denver, Colorado, USA Posts: 4,834	1952! It figures. "In God We Trust" on coins, "under God" in the pledge of allegiance, and the national day of prayer, all in the span of a few years.

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