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Old 06-14-2003, 07:12 AM   #1
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Question Authenticity of I and II Peter

I was reading Peter Kirby's excellent website a while back and noticed that II Peter is almost universally acknowledged as a forgery. However, Glenn Miller wrote an article about I and II Peter which can be found here in which he attempts to argue against their pseudonymity.

This is what Miller says about the doubts voiced by Origen on II Peter:

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Second Peter is clearly a different story...

a. First, let's be clear about the church witness:

"Such [Church] tradition uniformly ascribes the letter to Peter. There is no other name linked with it in the tradition." [CMMM:435]

b. Now, let's look at the first mention of 2 Peter in history--from Origen (185-254):

"It will be convenient to regard Origen as the pivotal Christian Father in this discussion, because reviews of the evidence so often commence with the statement that the epistle was not certainly known until his time and the authenticity becomes immediately suspect, especially as he also mentions doubts held by some about it. He uses the epistle at least six times in citations and shows little hesitation in regarding it as canonical...Some suggestion of doubt on Origen's part might be inferred from Eusebius' statement (HE 6.25) that he held Peter to have left one acknowledged epistle and 'perhaps also a second, for it is disputed'. But Origen mentions no explanation from the doubts which were apparently current among some Christians, neither does he give any indication of the extent or location of these doubts. It is a fair assumption, therefore, that Origen saw no reason to treat these doubts as serious, and this would mean to imply that in his time the epistle was widely regarded as canonical" [NTI:806]

c. He also speaks of Peter "sounding aloud with the two trumpets of his epistles" (Hom. In Josh. 7.1)

d. But disputes about the book (implying that the majority ACCEPTED it) are noted by Eusebius:

"One epistle of Peter, that called the first, is acknowledged as genuine. And this the ancient elders used freely in their own writings as an undisputed work. But we have learned that his extant second Epistle does not belong to the canon; yet, as it has appeared profitable to many, it has been used with the other Scriptures. The so-called Acts of Peter, however, and the Gospel which bears his name, and the Preaching and the Apocalypse, as they are called, we know have not been universally accepted, because no ecclesiastical writer, ancient or modern, has made use of testimonies drawn from them. 3 But in the course of my history I shall be careful to show, in addition to the official succession, what ecclesiastical writers have from time to time made use of any of the disputed works, and what they have said in regard to the canonical and accepted writings, as well as in regard to those which are not of this class. Such are the writings that bear the name of Peter, only one of which I know to be genuine and acknowledged by the ancient elders. (HE 3.3.1ff)
"And Peter, on whom the Church of Christ is built, 'against which the gates of hell shall not prevail,' has left one acknowledged epistle; perhaps also a second, but this is disputed. (HE 6.25.8)

e. Guthrie notes that this is actually quite favorable to 2 Peter's authenticity:

"The most important of these [later witnesses to 2 Peter] is Eusebius, who placed this epistle among the Antilegomena. He makes it clear that the majority accepted the epistle as authentic, together with James and Jude, but he himself had doubts about it. In fact he mentions two grounds for his doubts: first, writers whom he respected did not regard it as canonical, and secondly, it was not quoted by 'the ancient presbyters'. Under the latter objection Eusebius may have meant 'by name'. ..As it is, we are obliged to conclude that Eusebius and certain others were doubtful about the epistle, although the majority regarded it as canonical. Even Eusebius, however, did not list 2 Peter within his 'spurious' classification, into which category he did place the Apocalypse of Peter." [NTI:808f]

f. And this majority acceptance is enough to render the 'disputation' innocuous, as far as Petrine authorship is concerned. Since it was NOT in the spurious category (i.e., known to have been not from the apostolic circle), but in the disputed category (i.e., we are not sure about its apostolic authorship), one simply cannot use this as an argument AGAINST Petrine authorship.

"Yet where the majority accept a given book, the minority opinion must be viewed with proportionate reserve. At the same time it must be admitted that the external evidence is not strongly favourable in the case of this epistle. A mitigating factor, which has all too often been overlooked, is the influence of the pseudo-Petrine literature upon church opinion. If Gnostic groups had used Peter's name to drive home their own particular tenets, this fact would cause the orthodox church to take particular care not to use any spurious Petrine epistles. Some of the more nervous probably regarded 2 Peter suspiciously for this reason, but the fact that it ultimately gained acceptance in spite of the pseudo-Petrine literature is an evidence more favourable to its authenticity than against it, unless the orthodox Christ fathers had by this time become wholly undiscerning, which is not, however, borne out by the firm rejection of other works attributed to Peter." [NTI:809]

g. This lead us to reject your friends conclusion, simply because it is unaware of the distinction between "spurious" and "disputed":

"It would seem a fair conclusion to this survey of external evidence to submit that there is no evidence from any part of the early church that this epistle were ever rejected as spurious, in spite of the hesitancy which existed over its reception." [NTI:811]
Regarding the mention of "our fathers passing away", he views it as a reference to the OT patriarchs:

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(9) 2Pet 3:4 states that the apostles (and Elders, the 1st generation of christians) ('fathers') were all dead. If they are all dead (and tradition says that John lived the longest), how can this be from Cephas?

This is a similar case of eis-egesis (reading INTO the text)...

Here is the passage:

"Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts, 4 and saying, "Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation." (2 Peter 3.3f)

Your friend has decided that "the fathers" must mean all the apostles and all the Elders and perhaps even all the 1st generation of Christians, but this is not only arbitrary (and unsupported) but also contrary to normal NT usage:
"The false teachers ask, "Where is this `coming' he promised?" Mocking the faith of Christians, they support their own position by claiming, "Ever since our fathers died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation." Who are the persons Peter calls "our fathers"? Kelly (p. 355) and Schelkle (p. 224) argue that they were first-generation Christians. But Bigg (p. 291) and Green (Peter and Jude, p. 128-29) consider this unlikely. "Fathers" are much more likely to be OT fathers as in John 6:31, Acts 3:13, Romans 9:5, and Hebrews 1:1. This is the normal NT usage, and the other view requires a clumsy forger to have missed so obvious a blunder. "Our fathers died" (lit., "fell asleep") is a lovely metaphor for the death of believers (cf. Acts 7:60; 1Thess 4:13-14). [Blum, EBCOT]

The relevant NT passages include:

"Our fathers ate the manna in the wilderness; as it is written, `HE GAVE THEM BREAD OUT OF HEAVEN TO EAT.'" (John 6.31)
"The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified His servant Jesus, (Acts 3.13)

whose are the fathers, and from whom is the Christ according to the flesh, who is over all, God blessed forever. Amen. (Rom 9.5)

God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, 2 in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world. (Heb 1.1)

And we preach to you the good news of the promise made to the fathers, 33 that God has fulfilled this promise to our children in that He raised up Jesus, (Acts 13.32)

Bauckham admits that the weight of the evidence is for this interpretation (WBC:290):
"Those who wish to maintain that 'the fathers' are the OT patriarchs or prophets have the weight of usage on their side. In early Christian literature, continuing Jewish usage, hoi pateres ('the fathers') means the OT 'fathers,' i.e. the patriarchs or, more generally, the righteous men of OT times (John 7:22; Acts 13:32; Rom 9:5; Heb 1:1; Barn. 5:7; 14:1; Apoc. Pet. E 16; Ep. Apost. [Coptic] 28); apart from our passage, the only possible exception is 2 Clem 19:4, which could refer to dead Christians but most probably refers to the OT saints..."
He also attempts to rebut the Jude dependence issue:

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(10) 2Pet 2:1-18;3:1-3 are almost EXACT quotes from vss. 4-13,16-18 of Jude. So much so that denying dependence of 2Pet upon Jude ludicrous.(Which of course brings into question the meaning of 'canon' and 'prophecy', as Jude uses the UNcanonical book of 1Enoch as prophecy in Jude 14)

This argument is somewhat oblique to the subject of Petrine authorship, actually, because possible use of Jude as a source has no bearing on who is using it as a source! Unless it were conclusively demonstrated that Jude (or his material) did not arise until AFTER the death of Peter, this alleged borrowing has no relevance for the issue of authorship.

Indeed, Blum can point out [EBCOT, intro to 2 Peter]:

"The literary dependence of 2 Peter on Jude is not conclusively settled.... But even if Peter quoted or utilized a substantial part of Jude's letter, this would neither preclude Peter's authorship of the second letter nor its inspiration. For scholars to accept Mark's priority and Matthew's use of Mark is not incompatible with a high view of biblical inspiration and authority.

And in his discussion of the various options and theories, points out that almost all of the options are compatible with Petrine authorship [EBCOT, intro to 2 Peter]:
"There are so many similarities between 2 Peter (mainly ch. 2) and Jude that some kind of literary or oral dependence seems necessary. Mayor writes at length about this problem.
"The common material almost entirely relates to the description and denunciation of false teachers. The majority view is that 2 Peter is dependent on Jude (so Mayor, Feine, Behm). Some scholars use this apparent dependence on Jude to deny Petrine authorship. But the use of Jude by the author of 2 Peter would pose a problem for Petrine authorship of the letter only if (1) the dependence of 2 Peter on Jude were conclusively proved, (2) the composition of Jude were definitely dated later than A.D. 64, or (3) it could be shown that an apostle such as Peter would not have used so much material from another writer.

"Some students of 1 Peter find a large amount of catechetical material within it. If Peter in the composition of his first letter used material common within the church, there is no reason why he should not have done the same thing in writing his second letter. However, the dependence of 2 Peter on Jude is not a certainty. Mayor holds that 2 Peter uses Jude while Bigg finds that Jude borrows from 2 Peter. It is also quite possible that both letters used a common source.

"Since the date of Jude is not fixed by any firm internal or external data, it might have been written by A.D. 60. In that case Peter could have used Jude. But would an apostle of the stature of Peter make use of material by one who was not an apostle? The utilization of material by ancient authors cannot be judged by today's standards of citation in writing. Tradition played a much larger role in the thoughts of writers and speakers then than it does today. This is evident (to go back to an OT example) from parallel accounts of Kings and Chronicles and also from the synoptic gospels. To sum up, the special problem of the relation between Jude and 2 Peter or their relation to some common source remains unsolved. The adoption of a particular position--viz., Jude as prior, 2 Peter as prior, or both Jude and 2 Peter used an earlier source--does not necessarily affect the authenticity, authorship, or inspiration of these letters. Any of the three views is compatible with an evangelical theology, and conservative scholars generally leave the question open.

It is interesting that an older 19th-century commentator (E.H. Plumptre) had a quite plausible scenario (out of dozens available today):
"[He] made the suggestion that Peter was sent Jude's letter, realized the seriousness of the dangers mentioned and wrote a letter about it to the recipients of I Peter, for whom his name would carry more weight than Jude's" [NTI:830n4]

But your friend's "almost exact" (an oxymoron that I personally use often myself) is a bit off:
"There are conspicuous similarities between 2 Peter and Jude (compare 2Pe 2 with Jude 4-18), but there are also conspicuous differences. It has been suggested that one borrowed from the other or that they both drew on a common source. If there is borrowing, it is not a slavish borrowing but one that adapts to suit the writer's purpose. While many have insisted that Jude used Peter, it is more reasonable to assume that the longer letter (Peter) incorporated much of the shorter (Jude). Such borrowing is fairly common in ancient writings. For example, many believe that Paul used parts of early hymns in Php 2:6-11 and 1Ti 3:16. [NIV Study Bible, Intro to 2 Peter]
"Precise verbal correspondences between the two works is relatively sparse (much more so than in the "Q" pericopes of Matthew and Luke, e.g.)..." [Bauckham, Jude/2 Peter, WBC:140

[The issue of Jude's use of material from non-canonical books is irrelevant to Petrine authorship, of course, so I cannot deal with it here. But, just for the record, the use of extra-biblical material that is true cannot compromise the truthfulness of a passage of scripture!]
In any event, this "Hey, Jude!" issue is too gelatinous to be used to attack Petrine authorship, at any significant level.
Next he disputes that II Peter's author meant a 2nd century canon of Paul's letters in verses 3:15-16:

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Here is the passage (adjusting for the typo--it is 3.15-16):

"and regard the patience of our Lord to be salvation; just as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, wrote to you, 16 as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.

Now, your friend sees in this passage (specifically the words in bold), the following statements:
1. Paul's writings were already "long in existence"
2. That Paul's writings have "all been distributed"
3. That they have been "put into a collection"
4. That they have "already been assembled"
5. That the above steps 1-4 could only have occurred after Paul's death(!)

When I compare that list to the passage above, I am at a loss to find any way to match those up. The passage has no reference to any of the above elements--your friend is eise-geting again, and creating a problem from assumptions being read into the text.

There is no indication of a final, 'official' collection in the text--only a knowledge of Pauline letters;

"But 2 Peter says nothing about a collection, authoritative or otherwise; 'all his letters' need mean no more than all his letters known to Peter." [CMMM:435:]
"There is no suggestion that even these ['all his epistles'] were known to the readers...On the other hand, the epistles in question have had sufficient circulation for the false teachers to twist them from their true interpretation." [NTI:825]

"The reference in 2 Peter 3:15-16 to Paul's letters need not refer to the complete corpus of his letters but only to those known to the writer of these verses. The collecting of Paul's letters would have begun as soon as a church or some influential person recognized their value. Paul's instruction about exchanging letters (cf. Col 4:16) and their public reading (1Thess 5:27) would have facilitated the collection of his letters. That Luke or Timothy were traveling companions of Paul makes them likely collectors of his writings. [Blum, EBCOT, Intro]

The text refers to a previous Pauline epistle written to the readers (v.15), and by the time of the writing of 2 Peter, most of Paul's letters would have been informally circulated anyway.
Again, this argument is a case of over-assumption...
He goes on to say that the "false teachers" and "purveyors of knowledge" against whom Peter's author is writing aren't actually Gnostic:

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Since HiCritz have argued that the problem described in 2 Peter must be Gnosticsim, and with Gnosticism being 'late', this would make 2 Peter 'late' as well--certainly after the death of Peter. So, with a little imagination, I could reword his objection into something more reasonable:

The issues of false teachers (2Pet 2:1) obviously presuppose a problem [with Gnosticism] that would only arise after all the apostles had been dead,

There are numerous problems with this position, but the main one is that 2 Peter (and Jude, for that matter) do not give us enough detailed information to identify these teachers with later Gnosticism:

"It is a legacy from the criticism of F.C. Baur and his school that a tendency exists for all references to false teachers in the New Testament in some ways to be connected up with second-century Gnosticism. In spite of greater modern reluctance to make this unqualified assumption, the idea dies hard that no heresy showing the slightest parallels with Gnosticism could possibly have appeared before the end of the first century. The facts are that all the data that can be collected from 2 Peter and Jude) are insufficient to identify the movement with any known second-century system. Rather do they suggest a general mental and moral atmosphere which would have been conducive for the development of systematic Gnosticism. Indeed, it may with good reason be claimed that a second-century pseudepigraphist, writing during the period of developed Gnosticism, would have given more specific evidence of the period to which he belonged and the sect that he was combating. This was done, for instance, by the author of the spurious 3 Corinthians and might be expected here. The fact that the author gives no such allusions is a point in favour of a first-century date and is rather more in support of authenticity than the reverse." [NTI:828]

Plus, you have to remember that second-century Gnosticism does not arise "full-blown" in that century!
"A common objection is that the writer is opposing Gnostic teaching, which does not make its appearance until well after Peter's day. But there is no Gnostic system known to us that matches what 2 Peter says; to say that the writer is opposing Gnosticism is to go beyond the evidence. It must always be borne in mind that when we meet Gnosticism in the second century, it is a group of eclectic systems that gathered their teaching from a variety of sources. There is no doubt that some of the teachings that were later to appeal to the Gnostics go back to apostolic times, but this does not mean that Gnosticism does. The fact that this writer opposes such teaching is no reason for saying he was not Peter." [CMMM:436-7]

Indeed, the description best fits a different group altogether:
"Given the reports of charlatans so prominent in antiquity and parallels to all the ideas in existing Greek and Jewish conceptions in the first century, it is likely that the opponents are simply Diaspora Jews almost completely overtaken by Greek thought [BBC, Intro to 2nd Peter]

Again, the data is simply insufficient to support his/her argument.
One of his final points is an attempted rebuttal to why II Peter isn't even quoted by those who knew I Peter. It appears quite weaker than the others, as a sort of hand-waving, "we can't make any conclusions about areas that are damaging to our beliefs" apologetic:

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(13) Neither of the works are quoted in any christian documents until the early and mid second cent(c. 120ce). They should already have been in existence for nearly 60 years.

So?

There are just too many variables in the mix to turn this into an argument against Petrine authorship.

"As for the contention that knowledge of 2 Peter was geographically limited, it could be that persecution, the brevity of 2 Peter, or its remote destination resulted in its not being widely circulated in the first hundred years of the church." [EBCOT, Intro to 2 Peter]

And even this issue needs to be put in perspective:
"The attestation for 2 Peter is weaker than that for most other New Testament books but stronger than that of early Christian books that did not become part of the New Testament, especially those claiming to be Petrine. [BBC, Intro to 2 Peter]

Also, your friend needs to remember that we only have 2-3 Christian documents before 120 ad (e.g., Clement, Didache, Polycarp), and the themes of 2 Peter may not have lent themselves to use in those works. Given its brevity and specialized subject matter, it is not at all surprising that it was not cited by these few works.
The historical situation is simply too complex for this objection to have any real force to it.
He didn't address all of the anti-authenticity points, such as these from EarlyChristianWritings:

"In view of the difficulty in understanding "scripture," and its ambiguity, II Pet offers the thesis that "no prophetic scripture allows an individual interpretation" because men have spoken under the power of the Holy Spirit (1:20 f). Since not every Christian has the Spirit, the explanation of Scripture is reserved for the ecclesiastical teaching office. Accordingly we find ourselves without doubt far beyond the time of Peter and into the epoch of "early Catholocism."

"The Hellenistic concepts include: the areth of God (1:3), virtue in addition to faith (1:5); knowledge (1:2, 3, 6, 8; 2:20; 3:18); participation in the divine nature (qeias koinwnoi fusews) "in order that one might escape corruption that is present in the world because of lust" (1:4); the term epoptai comes from the language of the mysteries (1:16); placed side by side are a quotation from Proverbs and a trite saying from the Hellenistic tradition (2:22). "

"Besides, it is only so transparently not a letter, as the notes in the Catholic NAB state, "Except for the epistolary greetings in 1, 1-2, 2 Peter does not have the features of a genuine letter at all, but is rather a general exhortation cast in the form of a letter." "

"The epistle known as Polycarp to the Phillipians has numerous allusions to NT epistles, making it likely that the author had some kind of collection available to him. There is a list of NT parallels available online. But the one epistle that the author seemed to have liked to use most was First Peter... Yet despite his fondness for I Peter, the author does not provide the slightest allusion to II Peter. While I should not like to declare this argument to be insuperable, it does provide a consideration which isn't to be dismissed."

^ Pretty damaging, that.

"Irenaeus of Lyons obviously had a collection of canonical works that he quoted. Among these works were I Peter... Yet nowhere does Irenaeus quote or mention a second epistle of Peter, which is quite odd if Irenaeus' collection included this epistle, for it has so much juicy material that Irenaeus would not hesitate to use against his heretical opponents."

^ Probably the best single argument against authenticity, IMHO.

"Any defense of the authenticity of II Peter should be regarded as inerrantist apologetics." Indeed! I expect that these explanations he brought up are about as rational as those fundies pose for how a global flood can deposit mud cracks, but you never know!

Peter Kirby might be interested in adding it to his Online Resources for I and II Peter and/or rebutting some of its specific arguments Miller raises on his website.
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Old 06-14-2003, 09:40 AM   #2
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Regarding the mention of "our fathers passing away", he views it as a reference to the OT patriarchs:

Throwing obfuscation into the works. The main point of the passage is that people are wondering why the world hasn't ended - hard to believe that people were scoffing by 60 AD or so.

As for usage determining dating, do you have any example at all of a pre 70 AD work using 'Babylon' as a code-name for Rome? All Jewish references to Rome as Babylon are after 70 AD, because Rome like Babylon had conquered Jerusalem and destroyed the Temple.
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Throwing obfuscation into the works. The main point of the passage is that people are wondering why the world hasn't ended - hard to believe that people were scoffing by 60 AD or so.
The fundies will explain it as Peter magically predicting the future by using sky-daddy powers of foreknowledge, as opposed to commenting on the present.

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As for usage determining dating, do you have any example at all of a pre 70 AD work using 'Babylon' as a code-name for Rome? All Jewish references to Rome as Babylon are after 70 AD, because Rome like Babylon had conquered Jerusalem and destroyed the Temple.
Good point, that - but it only applies to 1 Peter, does it not? While I have few doubts that the majority position on that is correct, I would be most interested in hearing arguments on the second epistle.

Thanks for the reply.
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