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Old 11-10-2002, 06:54 PM   #1
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Give me one instance in which the end does not justify the means, and yet it is believed to.

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Using nuclear weapons to win a war.

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THEN THE END DID NOT JUSTIFY THE MEANS.
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Old 11-10-2002, 07:26 PM   #4
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To burn witches for their wrong opinion.

To study the bible if it sends you to hell.

To believe in God if it sends you to hell.

Hi Glory, I thought that Americans were convinced that their use of nuclear weapons was justified by the end (no response required).
 
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Yes, wasn't that what you asked for?
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YES. I DESIRED IT SO I CAN COLLECT A BUNCH OF CASES IN WHICH THE END DID NOT JUSTIFY THE MEANS. AFTER THIS, I HAVE SOMETHING IMPORTANT TO SAY REGARDING END AND MEANS, AND THAT THE FORMER ALWAYS JUSTIFIES THE LATTER.
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YES. I DESIRED IT SO I CAN COLLECT A BUNCH OF CASES IN WHICH THE END DID NOT JUSTIFY THE MEANS. AFTER THIS, I HAVE SOMETHING IMPORTANT TO SAY REGARDING END AND MEANS, AND THAT THE FORMER ALWAYS JUSTIFIES THE LATTER.</strong>
On second thought, why do some people assert that it is folly to believe that the end, if known, always justify the means?

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Warring for peace. Curbing human rights to enhance them.

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Thank you. My point precisely.
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Not this American.

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