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Zar · 03-28-2003, 12:18 AM

OUR LUKE WAS NOT EXECUTED

This is a story of a military relative who was told her brother died in action, and yet the media and government announce they were executed. Seriously, only a moron would deny this announcement has propaganda effect. Also, notice the typical style of "trust us, we know" from Blair that has pervaded all claims, from fake dossiers to forged documents leading up to this war.

Someone is being lied to. Is it the girl? Or is it the public?

phaedrus · 03-28-2003, 12:24 AM

No 10 backtracks on claim that two British soldiers were executed

Zar · 03-28-2003, 12:28 AM

Well, well...

York · 03-28-2003, 12:29 AM

bush has made it clear that he does not care the cost or burden. the goal must be achieved. the goal is of greater value then anything else. what you have asked on this site does not matter.

in the name of george bush i ask you to take that question back.

now i ask what kind of people act in this way?? are the signs not telling us something? why do people fear the dark? is it not because they are afraid of what they can not see? so they do not seek the dark to keep themselves secure?

offer the dark greetings and salutations. make yourself known to it so that light is shown across it. when u understand things they become so much clearer.

Zar · 03-28-2003, 01:41 AM

York,

What the hell are you talking about?

York · 03-28-2003, 01:56 AM

what part of what i said did you not understand? i wrote something on behalf of the words of george bush then continued with my owns words in relation to my thoughts. my articulation can be viewed as abstract in nature and cause confusion.

quote what i need to elaborate to you please :-)

edit/ at times i have a spiritualistic nature in the way i comunicate. gaining knowledge through the bible and other similar types of information base i reached the state of altruism.

please tell me weather or not the bottom writings is altruistic?

its been said many centuries ago that everyone here on earth is to make it to heaven. whats the best way to get somewhere together with another person? in heaven everything functions together properly. this question is not in context to god but to systems and their dependancies.

erehwon · 03-28-2003, 02:36 AM

Quote:

its been said many centuries ago that everyone here on earth is to make it to heaven. whats the best way to get somewhere together with another person? in heaven everything functions together properly. this question is not in context to god but to systems and their dependancies.

Altruism is looking out for the wellfare of others. I dont really get what you are saying either.

Does the above quote in reation to this mean that killing people in Iraq is in fact helping them to reach heaven and Bush etc are altruistic in this process by helping?

Or am i totally lost

erehwon · 03-28-2003, 02:44 AM

I feel that people could only speculate how these human beings were killed.. Blair used it as propaganda, why i can only speculate. But i suspect to shore up support or maybe to appease his public conscience.

erehwon · 03-28-2003, 02:53 AM

Quote:

now i ask what kind of people act in this way?? are the signs not telling us something? why do people fear the dark? is it not because they are afraid of what they can not see? so they do not seek the dark to keep themselves secure?

It may be that people do not fear the dark, but hide in it in fear that they may see what they know.

Is it more secure to follow something we create that is not real, rather than follow the intrinsic truth that is woven into humans while on earth.

York · 03-28-2003, 03:26 AM

erehwon has my context exactly as i wanted it implied. to my second paragraph reasoning. erehwon wrote in his words:

It may be that people do not fear the dark, but hide in it in fear that they may see what they know.

Is it more secure to follow something we create that is not real, rather than follow the intrinsic truth that is woven into humans while on earth.

now in this quote i think i can lose many of you. its secular in nature but applied by me in a spiritualistic way.

qoute: its been said many centuries ago that everyone here on earth is to make it to heaven. whats the best way to get somewhere together with another person? in heaven everything functions together properly. this question is not in context to god but to systems and their dependencies.

heaven is a system that is fair to all so that all can co-exist. the best way to co-exist is to absorb parts of your environment. kinda like developing immunity to venom by taking some in controlled quantities. then i reiterated once again that everything in the system i called heaven must be balanced. further definition in relation to context was given to prevent confusion to do key words that may be painted as bad. that would be the final line in my quote about look at heaven as a system.

am i clear now? i am here as a journeyman from the spiritualistic world of perceptions. i speak in a dialect you may not comprehend fully :-)

btw following this system of heaven America is wrong in its actions. That�s my view.

03-28-2003, 12:18 AM	#1
Zar Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Chicago, IL USA Posts: 3,477	There is a lie here, but which one is it? OUR LUKE WAS NOT EXECUTED This is a story of a military relative who was told her brother died in action, and yet the media and government announce they were executed. Seriously, only a moron would deny this announcement has propaganda effect. Also, notice the typical style of "trust us, we know" from Blair that has pervaded all claims, from fake dossiers to forged documents leading up to this war. Someone is being lied to. Is it the girl? Or is it the public?

03-28-2003, 02:44 AM	#8
erehwon Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Papamoa New Zealand Posts: 69	Zar I feel that people could only speculate how these human beings were killed.. Blair used it as propaganda, why i can only speculate. But i suspect to shore up support or maybe to appease his public conscience.

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03-28-2003, 12:24 AM	#2
phaedrus Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Indus Posts: 1,038	No 10 backtracks on claim that two British soldiers were executed

03-28-2003, 12:28 AM	#3
Zar Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Chicago, IL USA Posts: 3,477	Well, well...

03-28-2003, 12:29 AM	#4
York Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 140	bush has made it clear that he does not care the cost or burden. the goal must be achieved. the goal is of greater value then anything else. what you have asked on this site does not matter. in the name of george bush i ask you to take that question back. now i ask what kind of people act in this way?? are the signs not telling us something? why do people fear the dark? is it not because they are afraid of what they can not see? so they do not seek the dark to keep themselves secure? offer the dark greetings and salutations. make yourself known to it so that light is shown across it. when u understand things they become so much clearer.

03-28-2003, 01:41 AM	#5
Zar Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Chicago, IL USA Posts: 3,477	York, What the hell are you talking about?

03-28-2003, 01:56 AM	#6
York Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 140	what part of what i said did you not understand? i wrote something on behalf of the words of george bush then continued with my owns words in relation to my thoughts. my articulation can be viewed as abstract in nature and cause confusion. quote what i need to elaborate to you please :-) edit/ at times i have a spiritualistic nature in the way i comunicate. gaining knowledge through the bible and other similar types of information base i reached the state of altruism. please tell me weather or not the bottom writings is altruistic? its been said many centuries ago that everyone here on earth is to make it to heaven. whats the best way to get somewhere together with another person? in heaven everything functions together properly. this question is not in context to god but to systems and their dependancies.

03-28-2003, 03:26 AM	#10
York Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 140	erehwon has my context exactly as i wanted it implied. to my second paragraph reasoning. erehwon wrote in his words: It may be that people do not fear the dark, but hide in it in fear that they may see what they know. Is it more secure to follow something we create that is not real, rather than follow the intrinsic truth that is woven into humans while on earth. now in this quote i think i can lose many of you. its secular in nature but applied by me in a spiritualistic way. qoute: its been said many centuries ago that everyone here on earth is to make it to heaven. whats the best way to get somewhere together with another person? in heaven everything functions together properly. this question is not in context to god but to systems and their dependencies. heaven is a system that is fair to all so that all can co-exist. the best way to co-exist is to absorb parts of your environment. kinda like developing immunity to venom by taking some in controlled quantities. then i reiterated once again that everything in the system i called heaven must be balanced. further definition in relation to context was given to prevent confusion to do key words that may be painted as bad. that would be the final line in my quote about look at heaven as a system. am i clear now? i am here as a journeyman from the spiritualistic world of perceptions. i speak in a dialect you may not comprehend fully :-) btw following this system of heaven America is wrong in its actions. That�s my view.

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