bluefugue

<a href="http://www.dilbert.com/creators/bc/archive/bc-20020619.html" target="_blank">http://www.dilbert.com/creators/bc/archive/bc-20020619.html</a>

tgamble

sad thing is that there are idiots like Hovind and Ham who will probably use that in their presentations.

Grumpy

I remember seeing that several weeks ago. Like Johnny Hart's "finest" evangelical work, it has the distinction of being unfunny.

So, dilbert.com is the Creators Syndicate URL? Clever, I guess, if misleading.

DireStraits

That's just stupid. First of all, Darwin never claimed we were descended from monkeys. Secondly, I think it is an unintentional repeat of Bishop Wilberforce's challenge to Huxley "Were you descended from an ape from your father's or your mother's side?"

Huxley replied with devastating force:

"If then, said I, the question is put to me would I rather have a miserable ape for a grandfather or a man highly endowed by nature and possessed of great means of influence & yet who employs these faculties & that influence for the mere purpose of introducing ridicule into a grave scientific discussion, I unhesitatingly affirm my preference for the ape."

The sadness is that not only is the cartooist ignorant of the most basic claims of Darwinism, there is undoubtedly a readership he has who mistake this ignorance for "wit and wisdom."

lpetrich

Present-day monkeys, yes.

But the shared ancestors would have been very simian. And indeed that is what one finds from the hominid fossil record -- the farther back one looks, the more simian they get.

KC

I'm surprised they don't use his cartoons as evidence men lived side by side with dinosaurs. They snowed the Arkansas legislature into thinking Jack Chick's comic books were scientific authority.

As an aside, Hart caught hell from the Jewish community over one incredibly ham-handed cartoon depicting a menorah morphing into a cross.

Cheers,
KC

Occam's Aftershave

Even better than the famous "I'd prefer the ape" quote is one Huxley produced after Wilberforce's accidental death. Some years after the debate Wilberforce was killed in a riding accident when he was throw from his horse and struck his head on a rock. When being told of his former antagonist's fate, Huxley supposedly replied "Alas, today for the first time in his life the good Bishop's brains came in contact with reality. The result, I'm afraid, was fatal."

O.A.

bluefugue

Nice handle.

excreationist

BTW, AiG did an interview with Johnny Hart <a href="http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/2459.asp" target="_blank">here</a>.
Here's some AiG cartoons about Darwin and monkeys -
<a href="http://www.answersingenesis.org/AfterEden/AE_Pages/ae2-12-2001.asp" target="_blank">Darwin Day</a>
<a href="http://www.answersingenesis.org/AfterEden/AE_Pages/ae7-10-2000.asp" target="_blank">Monkey Science</a>

Anyway, the thing that concerns me is that Johnny Hart gets many of his creationist or at least theistic/Christian comics published in newspapers all over the world... these would influence people a bit (maybe)

Bubba

The problem is that evolution has, in the words of one commentator, "enough evidence to convince any fair minded skeptic..."

Since by his interview Mr. Hart says that there are no transitional fossils or missing links, he obviously hasn't looked at the evidence with an open mind.

Bubba