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Old 10-15-2002, 12:34 PM   #1
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<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A30032-2002Oct15.html" target="_blank">Ohio OKs Creation in Science Class</a>
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The state school board said Tuesday it will adopt a science curriculum that leaves it up to school districts whether to teach the concept of "intelligent design," which holds that the universe is guided by a higher intelligence.
Talk about passing the buck. No telling how many ACLU suits will pop up in communities across the state.
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The title of the article really implies much more than was actually approved. All it is is evolution being specifically pointed to as a contravercial theory, and not also explicitly saying that the contravercy is due to the clash between science and religion, rather than competing scientific theories.

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The title of the article really implies much more than was actually approved. All it is is evolution being specifically pointed to as a contravercial <strong>theory</strong>, and not also explicitly saying that the contravercy is due to the clash between science and religion, rather than competing scientific theories.

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But evolution isn't a theory. Evolution is a scientific theory. ID is a theory. The decision allows a teacher to ignore the libraries of evidence for evolution. It allows districts to ignore the fact that evolution hasn't been disproven by a creationist after all these years. It allows someone in a classroom to expel crap equating ID as being as legitimate as evolution from a scientific standpoint.

I think I'm going to Borders and setting fire to Jonathan Wells' books... Well perhaps I'll just move them all into the fiction section.
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When I see books by Remine, Wells, etc. in the science section of my local bookstores, I have to resist the urge to pick them all up and dump them in the religion section.
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<strong>When I see books by Remine, Wells, etc. in the science section of my local bookstores, I have to resist the urge to pick them all up and dump them in the religion section.</strong>
Why resist? I sometimes reshelve them in the pseudoscience/psychic/new age section.
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Don't do that, you'll give pseudoscience/psychic/new age books a bad name!
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Why resist? I sometimes reshelve them in the pseudoscience/psychic/new age section.
I've sometimes made a point of complaining to clerks or the manager when I find stuff like Darwin's Black Box in the Science section of the bookstore. Typically, all I get in response is a blank look.

On a related matter, is it my imagination, or are the Science sections in most of the bookstores I frequent shrinking? It seems like they're getting smaller and smaller, while the Religion ("Inspirational") and New Age sections get bigger and bigger.

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<strong>On a related matter, is it my imagination, or are the Science sections in most of the bookstores I frequent shrinking? It seems like they're getting smaller and smaller, while the Religion ("Inspirational") and New Age sections get bigger and bigger.

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I know that the "Magical Studies" section is much bigger than the science section at one of my local bookstores.
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I know that the "Magical Studies" section is much bigger than the science section at one of my local bookstores.</strong>
My local bookstore doesn't HAVE a science section. There's a section of philosophy/religion/new age/etc. and at the bottom there's maybe eight or ten different science books. Two of them are only there because I specifically ordered them (Blind Watchmaker and Climbing Mount Improbable by Dawkins).

This is why I use Amazon.


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