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Valentine Pontifex · 08-23-2002, 03:04 PM

Eugenie Scott is on Crossfire at 7 PM ET Friday 8-23. As I write this that means right now.

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[ August 23, 2002: Message edited by: LordValentine ]

pz · 08-23-2002, 03:42 PM

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Originally posted by LordValentine:
Eugenie Scott is on Crossfire at 7 PM ET Friday 8-23. As I write this that means right now.

Just saw it. Eugenie was cool and calm and rational. Carville was terrifically dismissive. The moron from the family research council was a total twit: claiming that the Cobb County resolution was actually very close to Eugenie's position (obviously totally false, and I think Eugenie is best qualified to judge her own opinion), and trying to simultaneously claim that they were just trying to get a fair hearing for creation 'science', while arguing that anyone against it was just exercising anti-religious hysteria.

tgamble · 08-23-2002, 04:15 PM

Is there a link to it?

Principia · 08-23-2002, 04:26 PM

They should come up as they become <a href="http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/cf.html" target="_blank">availabe</a>.

Principia · 08-23-2002, 09:19 PM

Crossfire transcript up at above CNN link.

Albion · 08-23-2002, 09:32 PM

Interesting. Yet again they tried to turn a debate on the inclusion of creationism into a debate on the validity of evolution.

Principia · 08-23-2002, 09:39 PM

Yep, not a single mention of the 'alternative theories' that they'd teach alongside evolution.

Xeluan · 08-24-2002, 12:55 AM

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Interesting. Yet again they tried to turn a debate on the inclusion of creationism into a debate on the validity of evolution.

That seems to be the preferred tactic. The discussions rarely center on the alleged evidence for creationsim/ID.

There was something on Fox earlier today (via cable in Australia) where someone called Cal Thomas(?) was arguing with a scientist re evolution. Thomas asked the scientist if Mengele was justified in his experiments. The scientist of course said no and Thomas tried to argue that the scientist was then trying to force his beliefs on everyone. It was quite a bizare exchange.

Xeluan

tgamble · 08-24-2002, 03:42 AM

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That seems to be the preferred tactic. The discussions rarely center on the alleged evidence for creationsim/ID.

Attacking evolution IS the evidence! LOL!

bluefugue · 08-24-2002, 06:15 AM

It's good strategy, though. Put the other side immediately on the defensive. Throw out so many "objections" to evolution that they are forced to scramble around correcting one misapprehension after another. The vague impression one gets is, "Gosh, even if *most* of those objections are fallacious, one or two of them might be valid!"

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Valentine Pontifex Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Orion Arm of the Milky Way Galaxy Posts: 3,092	Eugenie Scott of NCSE on Crossfire Eugenie Scott is on Crossfire at 7 PM ET Friday 8-23. As I write this that means right now. [Edit was to remove right now from subject line.] [ August 23, 2002: Message edited by: LordValentine ]</p>

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08-23-2002, 04:15 PM	#3
tgamble Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: St. John's, Nfld. Canada Posts: 1,652	Is there a link to it?

08-23-2002, 04:26 PM	#4
Principia Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: anywhere Posts: 1,976	They should come up as they become <a href="http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/cf.html" target="_blank">availabe</a>.

08-23-2002, 09:19 PM	#5
Principia Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: anywhere Posts: 1,976	Crossfire transcript up at above CNN link.

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Albion Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: US east coast. And www.theroyalforums.com Posts: 2,829	Interesting. Yet again they tried to turn a debate on the inclusion of creationism into a debate on the validity of evolution.

08-23-2002, 09:39 PM	#7
Principia Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: anywhere Posts: 1,976	Yep, not a single mention of the 'alternative theories' that they'd teach alongside evolution.

08-24-2002, 06:15 AM	#10
bluefugue Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,427	It's good strategy, though. Put the other side immediately on the defensive. Throw out so many "objections" to evolution that they are forced to scramble around correcting one misapprehension after another. The vague impression one gets is, "Gosh, even if most of those objections are fallacious, one or two of them might be valid!"

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