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Old 07-22-2003, 05:16 AM   #1
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Default The serpent in Eden

As punishment for luring Eve into sin, it was to slither on the ground.

How exactly did it move about before the luring deed?



Does the bible say, do you have a wacky theory?



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Why, it bounced upon it's tail of course. Not unlike Tigger.

Duh!

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003:015 And I(God) will put enmity between thee(serpent) and the woman, and between
thy(serpent) seed and her seed; it(the enmity???) shall bruise thy head, and thou (serpent??)
shalt bruise his(whose heel?) heel.


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As punishment for luring Eve into sin, it was to slither on the ground. How exactly did it move about before the luring deed? Does the bible say, do you have a wacky theory?
This version from the genesis in this biased teaching is wacky.

Behind all this is the symbol of creation of life. It is the 'tree of life' aka penis, a thing that has ambivalent qualities. It is able to 'water the garden of joy' (Hebrew: 'gan eden') (vulva) also known in Sumer as 'Tilmun' - Sargon of akkad has captured ‘Tilmun’ with his hands - but it is also feared as a 'dragon' or as a 'straighten up serpent' (from woman's). The myths have associated this (on sky visible) 'dragon or serpent' all over the world with the figure of the milky way above on the sky:

and on URL doormann.tripod.com/oro01.htm one can see how people have seen this 'dragon' all over the world. In the ancient Sumer this ‘dragon’ was known as ‘Mushusu’

mentioned in the ‘Enuma Elish’ and after the end of the Sumer’s this dragon was taken as this wacky story in the genesis. In the NT this straighten up serpent is also mentioned by Jesus. It is a symbol waiting to interpretate as symbol; gravity aspects have no meaning here.

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003:015 And I(God) will put enmity between thee(serpent) and the woman, and between
thy(serpent) seed and her seed; it(the enmity???) shall bruise thy head, and thou (serpent??)
shalt bruise his(whose heel?) heel.


Can you help with this?






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There are two serpents. The greater serpent is "woman" (later called Mary) and the lesser serpent is the one that was later called Eve by Adam. So yes, the illusory identity that was created in Gen 3 became known as Adam and he claimed the lesser serpent as his wife and called her Eve. She represents the cunning sly nature of humans who will crawl to get where they want to go if they can't get there any other way. This of course is in response to the vacuum (thirst or tanha) created by the illusory existence of the Adam identity and the greater serpent is the always cause of our awareness of this emotion/feeling.

Therefore, the greater serpent of the TOL strikes at the head of the lesser serpent of the TOK and she in turn strikes at the heel of Adam (the ego consciousness that is known only in the TOK), and this is what motivates him to greater heights (and he will crawl to get there). So we now have the ego in charge of the body human but his actions are partly Determined by the greater serpent of the TOL.
 
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How exactly did it move about before the luring deed?
Maybe I've had way too much caffeine and not nearly enough sleep (okay not maybe) but I can't understand the responses at all. Anyway, I was always taught that the snake had legs previously.
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They had little wings.
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I think the implication is that the serpent used to have legs.

Maybe someone thought up the story after discovering a serpent with vestigial legs.
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