Boro Nut

I agree. You are just wasting your time with them and might as well bin them straight away. They are the same as those vouchers you get free through the door for gusset liners with wings and stuff. Toatally useless. If you didn't have your skid marks to work to how would you be able to put your undies on the right way? They are never for stuff that you like, or would use, or if they are they are only for stores in the next town and the buses are off. If you ever do get some for chocolate at a local shop you find out the date has expired once you have saved enough up. It's a con.

Unless you know someone who is going to prugatory soon who might be interested of course. They might appreciate them even if it's only for 10% off. But even then you might find that it's called "New Improved Purgatory", or "Pargatory" or something when they get there, and they wont accept them because yours are for Purgatory. There's always a swizz somewhere.

Boro Nut

Gemma Therese

AIF, don't you feel somewhat bad about coming on this board and making fun of your grandmother's belief? It is one thing to hold a different view from her, but it quite another to exploit her beliefs (for the sake of humor?) on a message board.

This issue isn't whether Purgatory exists or doesn't exist. If you were interested in discussing this, you could have started a thread on Purgatory without the story about your grandmother. You obviously had respect for her as a person. Respect her beliefs and don't make fun of them on her account.

Gemma Therese

openeyes

Gemma Therese wroteHe's making fun here, probably because he's so astounded that people he's related to and probably loved on some level, could ascribe to these beliefs. I was raised Catholic and most of my family still is. I just have to turn around and shake my head at the stuff you're suppose to accept. Humor is one way to deal with these absurdities. His dead grandmother will not know anything about his posting.

Amos

What is most interesting here is that you, with your eyes wide open in broad daylight, have not figured out yet that protestants don't call Catholics "christian" because Catholics are not "born again," and they wonder why the Church does not use 'born-again' techniques to zap their believers into some sort of spiritual awakening, just like they do.

The answer here is that such techniques (and there are many), will land the believer in purgatory but without any hope to ever recover from that mixed up state of mind. So if you don't believe in purgatory ask any of your friends here how difficult it is to shake that old feeling of being saved while at the same time feeling wretched and doomed to hell. In Catholicism it is called the saved/sinner complex that, for example, caused Macbeth to commit suicide.

atheist_in_foxhole

Do you really believe that stuff, Amos? Do you really believe in an invisible world of demons, angels, purgatory, hell and the like?

Amos

Not really aif, but the fact is that it fills up mental institutions and I just give you the reason why that is so.

mecca777

Macbeth didn't commit suicide, Amos. Unless you're talking about a different Macbeth...

Macbeth Act V Scene 8

Macbeth:
Why should I play the Roman fool, and die
On mine own sword! while I see lives, the gashes
Do better upon them.

Amie

I believe in angels.

Amos

I remember that line and I concluded here that he died like an "iron fool" instead. The Roman fool makes reference to Rome and their way of crucifying the ego.

Are you sure about this because I seem to remember that he did commit suicide.

Undercurrent

I'm quite certain that he was killed by McDuff. The witches said that "no man born of woman" can kill MacBeth, but MacDuff was "from his mother's womb untimely ripped" and apparently that doesn't count as being born of woman.

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