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Old 04-22-2002, 03:46 PM   #11
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Roberston should be heeded! We ALL remember how accurate Robertson's last prediction was!

Which reminds me... how many people in the Disney Gay Day Parade were killed by that meteor + tsunami + hurricane + earthquake?
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Old 04-22-2002, 07:08 PM   #12
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<strong>It amazes me how anyone, much less the Republican party, can even pretend to take this dufus seriously.</strong>
I know what you mean. When it comes to foreign policy, economics, and crime, the Repubs tend to be short-term realists, the 'Crats long-term idealists, yet the Republican party is the 'religious party' in the nation.

And, is it just me, or has The Rapture(TM) been just over the horizon for about ... say ... 2 millenia now? The apostles though JC would be back before they died, the priests in the Middle Ages thought they lived in the end of times, the clergy during the Enlightenment thought Voltaire etc. were precursors to the Antichrist, and now this.
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Old 04-22-2002, 07:16 PM   #13
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It is my opinion that the republican party pay a lot of lip service to the religious right and get a lot of cash out of them. However, it is unclear exactly how much notice they truly take of them.

The religious right may think they are playing the republican party but I think it is the other way around...
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Old 04-23-2002, 02:11 AM   #14
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<strong>It is my opinion that the republican party pay a lot of lip service to the religious right and get a lot of cash out of them. However, it is unclear exactly how much notice they truly take of them.

The religious right may think they are playing the republican party but I think it is the other way around...</strong>
HA! Never thought of that ... it makes a lot of sense now that you mention it, though it doesn't quite account for the number of positions given directly to members of the Religious Right.
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Old 04-23-2002, 04:09 AM   #15
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Russ Feingold was up here yesterday making exactly the same point, that the Bush Justice department hasn't made a move against abortion laws anywhere because the GOP raises so much dough as long as its supporters are pissed off that abortion is available.
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It is my opinion that the republican party pay a lot of lip service to the religious right and get a lot of cash out of them. However, it is unclear exactly how much notice they truly take of them.
I agree with this. I think GW Bush would like to be more moderate, both religiously and politically, but trying to hold on to all those goofy right-fringe voters makes for some dicey politics.

Before the election my fundy sister-in-law was salivating about how great it would be to have a fundy president (not her words). I told her then there would not be one less abortion in this country with Bush as prez. (I didn't tell her this would be a good thing, however.)

Putting Ashcroft in as AG was a bone to the Robertson crowd. I wouldn't doubt that he regrets it in light of what a doorknob he's turned out to be.

Then again maybe not. Ashcroft is a handy guy to have around when you're trying to repeal the Bill of Rights.
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Old 04-23-2002, 06:18 AM   #17
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<strong>Russ Feingold was up here yesterday making exactly the same point, that the Bush Justice department hasn't made a move against abortion laws anywhere because the GOP raises so much dough as long as its supporters are pissed off that abortion is available.</strong>
Exactly. That's why none of the state legislatures have put forth an abortion bill that would pass the Supreme Court's test - banning third trimester abortions with exceptions for rape, incest, and the health of the mother. There are states where that would pass but the pro-lifers don't propose bills like that. If such a bill became law it would take the wind out of their sails.
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Old 04-24-2002, 03:36 PM   #18
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Oh man, Pat Robertson. I had to write a report on him one year, it was probably the hardest thing I've ever done. You see, I had to be for him and his beliefs in this paper and try to convince other people of that. It was a nearly impossibly task. The teacher felt bad for me and gave me an A for trying. lol
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Old 04-24-2002, 05:10 PM   #19
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Alright, i voted for Bush. I like Bush. I know he's a bible thumper, but he supports policies i support. Not all, but many. I'm not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

It's not fair to say all republicans support Robertson. I don't, i can't. Many republicans are christian, pro-life folks, and slowly i'm starting to call myself a libertarian instead of a republican.

But there is a diversity of thought, not all people who support Bush are automatically fariy tale tellers or Robertson admirers. At least i'm not.
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Cydonia - Bush's nomination was a deliberate ploy to attract people like you - people who like only a few of his policies, but can overlook the others because he is such a nice guy and doesn't cheat on his wife.

I don't think all Republicans like Robertson, but it's clear that Robertson is a major influence in the Republican Party. If you support the Republican Party, you are lending support to Robertson, whether you like him or not.
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