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that's true. I don't exactly know why I didn't write all that in the first place, to save on confusion. Looks like I am guilty of overcomplicating with intellect- you don't have all day. ooh! I hope I'm not going to be doomed to confuse. Must stay focused!

first, I propose a change in family values. Over the dinner table today we were discussing the history of the family in England. My mum was telling us that divorce didn't exist at one point. If a girl had a child out of wedlock it could be taken from her, and any girl suffering pregnancy, and giving birth beyond marriage would be punished: possibly held captive by her family and prevented from further mischief. (& made to scrub doorsteps for eternity.. or something like that). People are no longer frowned upon as they were. The idea of 'till death do us part', I think, had something to do with the fact that if a couple had a baby in marriage, but fell out they would be stuck with the situation. Hence the term 'wedlock'. Obviously, this isn't a good solution for the child.

Secondly I propose that all citizens should give DNA samples. Then if a girl gets pregnant, and faces the problems involved with single parenting, the biological father could be found and would have to pay some kind of debt to the mother-to be, her family, or in some other way that benefits poor children. I think this would deter both women and men from having sex early, and ensuring that both have contraception. The laws should be changed to reflect the seriousness of sexual activity. Unfortunately the sexual revolution in the 1960's has undermined values in previous decades.

that was the coherent bit for Ju'iblex and all other non-wooley thinkers, which just about covers everyone but me. Just think of all the cardigans I could knit. Now for some appropriate lyrics that someone will (hopefully) appreciate:

When I was just a little girl,
I asked my mother, 'What will I be?
Will I be pretty?
Will I be rich?'
Here's what she said to me:

'Que Sera, Sera,
what ever will be, will be;
The futures not ours to see .
Que Sera, Sera,
What will be, will be'

Not If dirty dick can help it. have you got on your chastity belt ladies? we CAN change the future!

Father, what does regret mean? well son, the funny thing about regret is that it's better to regret something you have done than to regret something you haven't done... and, by the way if you see your mother this weekend be sure to tell her ... satan... satan... satan... satan

yes. santa claus is coming to town and he's going to leave all the girls with a little present, if he can only get his hooks on you. Only, it's a myth when he promises to come once a year.

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purple smarty, your studies have been noted:

true. BUT, how many studies have used a normal (control) population and an experimental group of castrated offenders? I am assuming that the studies are based on known populations. Testosterone levels between 'normal' individuals, vary widely. thereby, no significant result would be found.

Keeping in line with one of the issues, would it be morally wrong to *snip* the archetypal BREEDER?

"Castration studies generally show that violoence in sex offenders is reduced by this surgical procedure, especially where 'excessive libido' is considered the instigator of sexual assaults (eg. Brain 1994)"

"A 1997 article on violence in a popular science magazine quoted a clinical geneticist who echoed Lyndon Johnson:

we know what causes violence in our society: poverty, discrimination, the failure of our educational system. It's not the genes that cause violence in our society. It's our social system.

The authors of the article, the historians Betty and Daniel Kevles, agreed:

We need better education, nutrition, and intervention in dysfuncional homes and in the lives of abused children, perhaps to the pont of removing them from the control of their incompetent parents. But such responses would be expensive and socially controversial."