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Oolon Colluphid · 03-10-2003, 02:29 AM

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Originally posted by Lobstrosity
What do creationists have to say about mitochondrial DNA? Don't they know that it's possible to trace this? If all humans evolved from one woman 6000 years ago, we could actually experimentally confirm it, just as we could also confirm it for all animals on Earth. Do they somehow claim that mitochondrial DNA is bogus, or perhaps that our estimation of mutation rates is far too low?

Simple. If it doesn�t show what they want it to show, then the science is flawed. The Babble is right no matter what, of course, so we must be misinterpreting something if nature doesn�t accord with it. Obvious, really.

DT

Oolon Colluphid · 03-10-2003, 03:30 AM

I�ve always been intrigued about where all the parasites and pathogens went.

They had to be on board, since they cannot survive outside their hosts.

And they had to be pathogens, since creationists claim that the nasty stuff came about as a result of the fall, which was some time prior to the ark.

Anthrax and Ebola, Lassa and Lyme disease, hookworms, roundworms and tapeworms, flukes, fleas, lice and ticks, bot-flies and sand-fleas, typhoid and typhus, malaria, rabies, amoebic dysentery, cholera, influenza... (and that�s just the humans!)... How did anything get off alive?

DT

Lobstrosity · 03-10-2003, 04:27 PM

That is a remarkably good point! I never even considered that.

Albion · 03-10-2003, 07:28 PM

Yes, it's always interesting to ask YECs how many fleas they thought went onto the ark.

Shadowy Man · 03-10-2003, 07:42 PM

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Originally posted by Lobstrosity
What do creationists have to say about mitochondrial DNA? Don't they know that it's possible to trace this? If all humans evolved from one woman 6000 years ago, we could actually experimentally confirm it, just as we could also confirm it for all animals on Earth. Do they somehow claim that mitochondrial DNA is bogus, or perhaps that our estimation of mutation rates is far too low?

Mitochondrial DNA must be a conspiracy made up by those eggheads living in their ivory towers to attempt to discount the Bible.

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03-10-2003, 03:30 AM	#22
Oolon Colluphid Contributor Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Alibi: ego ipse hinc extermino Posts: 12,591	I�ve always been intrigued about where all the parasites and pathogens went. They had to be on board, since they cannot survive outside their hosts. And they had to be pathogens, since creationists claim that the nasty stuff came about as a result of the fall, which was some time prior to the ark. Anthrax and Ebola, Lassa and Lyme disease, hookworms, roundworms and tapeworms, flukes, fleas, lice and ticks, bot-flies and sand-fleas, typhoid and typhus, malaria, rabies, amoebic dysentery, cholera, influenza... (and that�s just the humans!)... How did anything get off alive? DT

03-10-2003, 04:27 PM	#23
Lobstrosity Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 719	That is a remarkably good point! I never even considered that.

03-10-2003, 07:28 PM	#24
Albion Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: US east coast. And www.theroyalforums.com Posts: 2,829	Yes, it's always interesting to ask YECs how many fleas they thought went onto the ark.

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