cydonia

Wait, you can't read my mind when I post a smilie?

you said

"How about this: the bible wasn't written or even inspired by god. It was concocted by a bunch of goatherders who were fucked in the head, and who you feel sorry for because they were your ancestors. Because of this, you elevate them to the status of your deity, because you can't live without your pathetic fairy tale. How about that? Was I close? Be honest now."

I was saying, damn that's harsh.

But I like it.

orac

So what you're saying is that three days away from "eternal bliss" is sufficient to qualify Jesus's death and ressurection as a sacrifice?

So, if you could guarantee that I would be returned to the state in which I am now, then if I died for three days I would have made the same sacrifice as Jesus did. Why can't you see that because you claim Jesus is alive and in heaven, that means that you're claiming he's not actually dead or in hell?

I still think it's telling that you admire the idea of a sacrifical scapegoat so much, though. Can you explain why you worship a God who has an absolute and unchanging requirement for the torture and death of an innocent person before he can forgive people? For that matter, what on earth do you think words like "mercy" and "forgive" actually mean?

What's wrong with a system where people accept responsibility for their own actions? Why on earth do you think that you should you be punished because of what I do? If you don't, why do you think other people should be made to pay for my mistakes?

What's wrong with a system where children are protected from rapists and murderers? No, seriously. I want to know why you think God's system is so wonderful when it skips this very important detail. (Note: As you've explained on many occasions, God will not intervene to protect a child if that would take away the free will of a serial killer. I'm still wondering why you approve of this.)

Why do you consider it "arrogant" to demand those two simple things? Is there something wrong with wanting to be accountable for my own actions?

hinduwoman

I know a better way than how God handled it.

christ died for the sins of mankind thus redeeming it.
Ok.
then God should have immediately raptured entire mankind at that moment so as to stop them from committing more sins.
Everyone in heaven! Ta da!

winstonjen

Cool, I get it now! Thanks!