atheist_in_foxhole

If the answer is yes, then isn't it his fault (and his fault alone) that millions will go to hell?

If the answer is no, then how did it happen?

[ November 24, 2002: Message edited by: atheist_in_foxhole ]</p>

Amos

No because hell and heaven are religion specific or hell would have been part of Gen.1.

Hell is when you enter the race and can't finish it before you die. Lukewarm is hell while both cold and hot are good.

Hell is when you are torn in the paradox sinful yet saved and can't seem to reslove it. It is like having one leg in heaven and one on earth.

xstvn

In the bible it says on the 7th day he had to rest.
So, he gets tired.
Maybe he was napping when that went down

Amos

The seventh day is the day on which evening did not follow the day to indicate that when we come full circle on the seventh day we be illuminated by the celestial light wherefore the night shall be no more (Rev.22:5). The 'rest' is the reversal of the curse placed in Gen.2

Strawberry

A yes/no answer is irrelevant, isn't it? The xtian biblical god doesn't exist.

xstvn

Are you saying he did not rest?

Genesis 2
1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.


Sounds like the big guy was tired to me and needed a breather

Amos

Nah, that's just a protestant translation error!

It is a foreshadow of Rev.14:13 "Yes, they shall find rest from their labors, for their good works accompany them."

The seventh day is the everlasting day because evening does not follow that day and if it was physical rest that was needed he would look forward to the next night.

You are also confused in that only the essence of existence was created in Gen.1 because nothing had been formed as of yet. This does not happen until Gen.2 and not God but Lord God does the actual forming of that which God created in Gen.1.

In other words, God was just 'thinking' about this creation thing and did not get tired or worried over it and therefore did not need any physical rest.

[ November 25, 2002: Message edited by: Amos ]</p>

Evil Milkman

Ok, you guys still haven't answered the OP question... 'tis funny how often people can skirt the real issue.

It would be impossible to foil an omniscient being's plan, wouldn't it? He would have wanted it to happen.

That's part of the reason I reject Christianity now.

Asha'man

Clearly, the myth of genesis shows a deity that is either grossly incompetent or outright malicious. The story has him placing the most dangerous thing in the world (the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil) in the middle of a garden with a pair of innocent children. Even worse, this vile substance was stored within an edible fruit! Any competent deity would have stashed this “Knowledge of Good and Evil” in something other than a fruit tree, I personally would put it on an asteroid in another galaxy entirely.

Since this mythical deity is also supposed to be omniscient, that pushes me to believe that he is malicious, and intended to create all the suffering that is blamed on “the fall.”

Jack the Bodiless

I think the Christians (and the Jews) created this problem when they later invented the "omnimax" God.

If they simply chose to accept what Genesis plainly states, it's obvious that God goofed, and also that God's motive for expelling A&E from the garden was fear: his fear that they would eat from the second magic tree that he'd carelessly left in the garden, the Tree of Life, and become rival gods themselves.

Strange that so many modern believers (even inerrantists) get struck by temporary blindness when attempting to read that part.