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Old 01-25-2002, 10:09 AM   #11
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Bravo Turtonm! Still laughing! <img src="graemlins/notworthy.gif" border="0" alt="[Not Worthy]" />
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"The period of Islamic conquests and empire building marks the first phase of the expansion of Islam as a religion. Islam's essential egalitarianism within the community of the faithful and its official discrimination against the followers of other religions won rapid converts. Jews and Christians were assigned a special status as communities possessing scriptures and called the "people of the Book" (ahl al-kitab) and, therefore, were allowed religious autonomy. They were, however, required to pay a per capita tax called jizyah, as opposed to pagans, who were required to either accept Islam or die." - Enyclopaedia Britannica
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Compare this with jojo-sa's other (semi literate) posts and this is obviously a straight forward copy and paste job from some other author.

So I'd like to know who really wrote this apologetic crap so they can read the the replies from our esteemed posters refuting the lies and distortions contained within it.
You are right, of course. This post is a cut and paste -- without proper attribution -- from the article Islam - A Religion of Terror? which is from Invitation to Islam, Issue 5 October, 1998, and which is posted on a number of Islamic websites including:

<a href="http://thetruereligion.org/terror.htm" target="_blank">The True Religion, An Invitation to Discover Islam</a>

<a href="http://www.themodernreligion.com/terror/terrorism_terror.htm" target="_blank">Islam, the Modern Religion</a>


<a href="http://peringat.parti-pas.org/new_page_4.htm" target="_blank">Parti Islam Semalaysia</a>

<a href="http://www.alharamain.org/english/newsletter/issue49/dawaa.htm" target="_blank">Alharamain Organization</a>

... and many other places.

This article is certainly making the rounds. It is a good piece of pro-Islam propaganda. If this isn't propaganda, then Dictionary Committees are going to have to revise their definitions:

American Heritage. jihad: 1. A Muslim holy war or spiritual struggle against infidels. 2. A crusade or struggle: 'The war against smoking is turning into a jihad against people who smoke' (Fortune)."

Cambridge International: jihad: a holy war which is fought by Muslims against people who are a threat to the Islamic religion or who oppose its teachings The end result of the holy jihad will be victory. [C] Many people in the country have begun calling for armed jihad against the infidels. [U]

A jihad can also be a spiritual fight against the evil in yourself.

Dictionary.com . jihad: A religious war against infidels or Mohammedan heretics; also, any bitter war or crusade for a principle or belief.

Merriam-Webster: jihad: 1 a holy war waged on behalf of Islam as a religious duty 2 a crusade for a principle or belief.

Ultralingua. jihad: A holy war by Muslims against unbelievers; Synonyms: jehad

Webster's. jihad: a war by Muslims against unbelievers or enemies of Islam, carried out as a religious duty.

Wordnet. jihad: a holy war by Muslims against unbelievers

Wordsmyth. jihad 1. a holy war against enemies of Islam, undertaken by Muslims as a duty. 2. any fanatical crusade for an ideal or principle.

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So Don, you think this guy is going to come back to this thread? After all the only Jihad we westerners have experience with is the terrorist warfare waged against us and other “infidels” perceived as enemies of Islam. All in the name of a god who, if real, has to be the biggest mass murder of all time, what with his drowning of all humanity; (Geneses 6-9) save Noah and his family of course. You know you just have to wonder what sins the babies, children and animals committed to deserve this horrible fate. Yo, jojo-sa, care to drag out the passage that explains this murder of innocents by your “just” and “merciful” god. I’m waiting to be enlightened.
Don’t look now jo, but I think Devnet also put a little ass whipping on you. And used your own book to do it with, how poetic!
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So Don, you think this guy is going to come back to this thread?
Let's find out.

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