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Old 12-28-2002, 04:22 PM   #11
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Kurt Wise might want to take a pair of scissors to the state of scientific research if all the science behind evolution and an old earth and universe is false. He'd have as little left as he has left of the Bible, and with much more cause.
The really sad part is that he'd probably agree with you but that wouldn't change his views.:boohoo:
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Old 12-29-2002, 09:14 AM   #12
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"I have skimmed over that article about radiometric dating and...I will trust my source, Bob Jones University about it because the person who wrote it claims that the earth is Billions of years old, which is false. If it was showing Radiometric dating methods to give dates no higher than 10,000 years then I might be intersted, but it doesn't, he still claims sadly, like most "Christians", that the earth is billions of years old."

The most amazing case of denial that I have seen in awhile...

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Consider the following scenario: The scattered remanants of what appears to be a large ancient wooden vessel are found on a mountain in the Middle East. Scientists perfom a standard carbon 14 radiometric dating on a sample of the wood. It is determined to be in the neighborhood of 4000 to 5000 years old, which puts it in the time frame for the Biblical Great Flood. Now, do you think the fundies are still going to question the accuracy of radiometric carbon dating, as they have in the past when it conflicted with their beliefs? I don't think so. Now that they have found something that doesn't conflict with their belief system, radiometric carbon dating is now going to be seen by them as accurate, and they will try to distance themselves from all the skepticism they had about it in the past.

Similarly, if the Shroud of Turin was dated by carbon 14 methods to be from around 0 to 40 AD, do you think the fundies would still question the accuracy of carbon 14 testing? Not likely. They want it both ways.
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Old 12-29-2002, 09:32 AM   #13
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Now, do you think the fundies are still going to question the accuracy of radiometric carbon dating, as they have in the past when it conflicted with their beliefs?
I've seen it claimed that 14C dating is perfectly reliable back to the date of the Flud, but that all the "accelerated radioactive decay" involved in those "fountains of the deep" makes it useless from that time on back. I think that's why I really follow this whole debate - it's as good as watching the contortionist at the circus!
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Old 12-31-2002, 11:44 AM   #14
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Although there are scientific reasons for accepting a young Earth, I am a young-age creationist because that is my understanding of scripture. As I shared with my professors years ago when I was in college, if all the evidence in the universe turns against creationism, I would be the first to admit it, but I would still be a creationist because that is what the word of God seems to indicate. Here I must stand.
This is my problem with religion in general. People are willing to blindly accept whatever the church tells them, even when strong evidence for something else is staring them in the face. They say, "Oh, I'm a Christian (or a Muslim, or a Jew, or what have you), so I must belive this. They don't stop to consider that there could be an alternative.
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