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Totalitarianist · 04-20-2003, 05:58 PM

Do you believe in energy? [Yes.] Well, God is energy. Therefore you believe in God.

Do you believe in Nature? [Yes.] Well, God is nature. Therefore you believe in God.

Do you believe in love? [Yes.] Well, God is love. Therefore you believe in God.

Which can be said about absolutely anything of which a man can think, whether existent or non-existent, to "prove" the existence of another thing which in reality can be either existent or non-existent.

"There is a God in every culture in history; they cannot be wrong; therefore God exists."

This is a terrible argument, as no man denies, and which is so obviously so that I will not even examine it, but instead say that the same people who say that regard atheism as a religion. If atheism is a religion, it is certainly the oldest of them all, since a belief in God is logically subsequent to a lack of belief in God.

The silliest of them all: you cannot disprove that God does not exist, and therefore God exists. I still have not figured out how our lack of knowledge of something can prove that that something exists.

Also the first cause argument: utterly self-contradictory in all forms.

The better argument, though fallicious, is the ontological argument, which at first seems credible.

I am interested in the silly arguments which the infidels here have encountered as regards God's existence.

Slavik91 · 04-20-2003, 06:08 PM

Here are some.

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Aerik Von · 04-20-2003, 06:12 PM

If you can think and ponder, there must be a God!

philechat · 04-20-2003, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Slavik91
Here are some.

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I am still confused. Are they serious or are they atheists who are using our arguments to mock the Xians? I know it comes directly from our humor forum...

K · 04-20-2003, 06:45 PM

If God didn't exist, then words and logic would have no meaning, so simply by claiming God doesn't exist, you have proven that He does.

Slavik91 · 04-20-2003, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by philechat
I am still confused. Are they serious or are they atheists who are using our arguments to mock the Xians? I know it comes directly from our humor forum...

I've actually heard some of those arguments used.

Sad.

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Godot · 04-20-2003, 09:11 PM

I really liked this one:
10. ARGUMENT FROM CREATION

(1) If evolution is false, then creationism is true, and therefore God
exists.
(2) Evolution can't be true, since I lack the mental capacity to
understand it; moreover, to accept its truth would cause me to be
uncomfortable
(3) Therefore, God exists.

hehehe

Jobar · 04-20-2003, 09:30 PM

We have a long "...therefore God exists" thread in the Humor forum, Total, with about the same list as Winace's site.

Ah, I am going to lock this thread down- not because you have done anything objectionable, mind you, but the topic is covered thoroughly on that thread and at Winace's site. J.

04-20-2003, 05:58 PM	#1
Totalitarianist Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 1,234	Silliest arguments you have ever encountered as regards God's existence? Do you believe in energy? [Yes.] Well, God is energy. Therefore you believe in God. Do you believe in Nature? [Yes.] Well, God is nature. Therefore you believe in God. Do you believe in love? [Yes.] Well, God is love. Therefore you believe in God. Which can be said about absolutely anything of which a man can think, whether existent or non-existent, to "prove" the existence of another thing which in reality can be either existent or non-existent. "There is a God in every culture in history; they cannot be wrong; therefore God exists." This is a terrible argument, as no man denies, and which is so obviously so that I will not even examine it, but instead say that the same people who say that regard atheism as a religion. If atheism is a religion, it is certainly the oldest of them all, since a belief in God is logically subsequent to a lack of belief in God. The silliest of them all: you cannot disprove that God does not exist, and therefore God exists. I still have not figured out how our lack of knowledge of something can prove that that something exists. Also the first cause argument: utterly self-contradictory in all forms. The better argument, though fallicious, is the ontological argument, which at first seems credible. I am interested in the silly arguments which the infidels here have encountered as regards God's existence.

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04-20-2003, 06:08 PM	#2
Slavik91 Regular Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 169	Here are some. __________________ I am a cat eating tree

04-20-2003, 06:12 PM	#3
Aerik Von Regular Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Hell, New York Posts: 151	If you can think and ponder, there must be a God!

04-20-2003, 06:45 PM	#5
K Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,485	If God didn't exist, then words and logic would have no meaning, so simply by claiming God doesn't exist, you have proven that He does.

04-20-2003, 09:11 PM	#7
Godot Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Calgary Posts: 1,335	I really liked this one: 10. ARGUMENT FROM CREATION (1) If evolution is false, then creationism is true, and therefore God exists. (2) Evolution can't be true, since I lack the mental capacity to understand it; moreover, to accept its truth would cause me to be uncomfortable (3) Therefore, God exists. hehehe

04-20-2003, 09:30 PM	#8
Jobar Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: secularcafe.org Posts: 9,525	We have a long "...therefore God exists" thread in the Humor forum, Total, with about the same list as Winace's site. Ah, I am going to lock this thread down- not because you have done anything objectionable, mind you, but the topic is covered thoroughly on that thread and at Winace's site. J.

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