Plebe

<a href="http://www.bibleufo.com/" target="_blank">http://www.bibleufo.com/</a>

The autor of the book is one Patrick Cooke and he's also selling his book from the website.

Anyone familiar with similar types of Bible interpretations/authors capitalizing on theories along these lines[Bible, UFO, Deception,etc..] and would this be something Infidels would consider writing up for the newsletter?

Marduk

There are tons of them, Zechariah Sitchin, Eric Van Daniken, R. A Boulay, David Icke, Neil Freer, William Bramley Barry Chamish, Arthur Horn, Richard Thompson, even a religion that worships the aliens, The Raelians, among countless others. If you’d like I’ll post some of their websites
It is one of my favorite topics. Antediluvian mythology is full of tales of beings coming to Earth to mess with the new human race. Particularly Middle Eastern and Hindu myth.

The gods come to Earth and create humans to be their slaves, (Atrahasis) all these stories, including the Bible, have a common theme: Someone’s here from somewhere else, they are not human and they mess with human history. It doesn’t matter if you call them God, gods, Elohim, Bene ha Elohim (sons of god) Nephilim (Gen: 6) Watchers (Book of Enoch) Gergori, Annunaki, Igigi, Negas or Neteru All beings not from Earth, Extraterrestrial.
They come from ‘Heaven’ which before Christian times did not mean some ill-defined place where you go when you die, but ‘Above’ where the stars are, what we now call outer space.

The only problem with the theory is that it is unnecessary, all things can be accounted for with much simpler explanations. Ordinary evolution (if the aliens evolved on their own without interference, than so could have we. And people writing stories about things they saw in the sky and gave human characteristics to, comets, asteroids and such. Fun stuff though, I think.

Marduk

Here are a few more:

<a href="http://ufos.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.seekye1.com/" target="_blank">http://ufos.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.seekye1.com/</a>
<a href="http://www.mt.net/~watcher/" target="_blank">http://www.mt.net/~watcher/</a>
<a href="http://ufos.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?once=true&site=http://www.angelfire.com/wa/UFORC/page8.html" target="_blank">http://ufos.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?once=true&site=http://www.angelfire.com/wa/UFORC/page8.html</a>

Plebe

Thanks. I actually found that first link while looking for info on "Pliny the elder and round or flat earth"
Do you have any sites which debunk the theories as well and what do you think about all of this? I think this may turn out to be a new avenue for fundamentalist activity of a new stripe vs. the usual fare of tent revivals and would probably be a good topic for Infidel's newsletter come Halloween.

Plebe

I did a "quick skim" of those sites as posted by Marduk who responded to my first post. Since most of these authors appear to have written their theories in the late 1990's and 2000 there seems to be more coverage of strange things on popular shows such as The History Channel, "In Search of" and "Discover" I cannot find any body of work that outlines the most popular authors in this UFO genre along with criticism which appears to be yet still another way to generate interest in the area of mainstream religion. The below is one of those links as supplied by Marduk and the cut and paste is from the end of an essay at that site by Christopher Montgomery[whatever legitimacy he has is naturally up for debate]and which discusses the mention of 'being snatched up' into the air being an event mentioned in religious scriptures,the apocryphal Enoch being one from the Judeo-Christian tradition which is also mentioned by Joseph Wheless in "Forgeries in Christianity" <a href="http://ufos.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?once=true&site=http://www.angelfire.com/wa/UFORC/page8.html" target="_blank">http://ufos.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?once=true&site=http://www.angelfire.com/wa/UFORC/page8.html</a>
CONCLUSION. I have researched every major culture on earth for their association to the UFO phenomenon. I will tell you this. In all the years of research into those philosophies that I have studied, Christianity is the only one that remains a dynamically active faith that includes the UFO phenomenon. This substantiates their belief, and is present in the form of the UFO. Many Bible scholars would not agree with me, and I have presented sufficient research on this web site to refute their baseless arguments. Little do they know, it is the saving grace of Christendom. These are my beliefs, but there is only one God. What I present here has been obtained from accurate, historical records, which I have examined. The UFO has appeared throughout history as a harbinger of major change and upheavel. I have seen and experienced the UFO's glory. The UFO phenomenon represents a physical reality. The UFO also has a supernatural aspects. Those who have experienced the UFO and their occupants would agree that they possess all of the abilities one would expect from a ghost or phantom. I have discovered that the Lord and His heavenly angels fly in a UFO. Their behavior would suggest that they are preparing for something. Perhaps they are here in fulfillment of UFO prophecy. The Bible would suggest that they are getting ready for that commanding shout from heaven "stick in thy sickle and reap" for the crop is heavy and nigh unto harvest.

NOTE: This document was competed on April 9, 2000.

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Marduk

"Do you have any sites which debunk the theories as well and what do you think about all of this?"

There are some sites that debunk particular people like Sitchin and Van Daniken, mostly either their claims about ancient structures like the Pyramids being built by aliens or on mistranslations of ancient words. But the only way to debunk the idea that ‘the gods” were aliens is to assume they were all mythical characters. After all the stories do exist.

These sites debunk Sitchin’s translations, but that’s about all.
<a href="http://www.ianlawton.com/guindex.htm" target="_blank">http://www.ianlawton.com/guindex.htm</a>
<a href="http://www.facadenovel.com/positionpapers.htm" target="_blank">http://www.facadenovel.com/positionpapers.htm</a>
<a href="http://www.ianlawton.com/mesindex.htm" target="_blank">http://www.ianlawton.com/mesindex.htm</a>

Two popular authors who seems to share this ‘holy UFO’ type stuff would be Whitley Striber or Linda Howe, but I don’t think they are Christians. William Cooper is the only Christian I can think of, “Behold a Pale Horse” is his book, lots of ‘one world government’ type stuff in addition to the UFO’s.

It’s an interesting notion and would make a great movie if someone had the balls to do it, but unless these aliens return someday I think it will remain just an interesting notion.