Godless Dave

I do not agree that that is the principle of homosexuality. I don't think homosexuality is a principle or a philosophy. It's a feeling. Homosexuals are attracted to the same sex in the same way heterosexuals like myself are attracted to the opposite sex. By "attracted to" I mean both sexual attraction and romantic love attraction, which I see as two related but not identical emotions. It is not a belief that everyone should feel the way they do. I've never met or heard of a homosexual who thinks heterosexuality is weird. And I have never heard of any homosexual trying to convince other people to be homosexual.

catmar

quote from phil:

Many atheists consider something to be ethically wrong if it harms someone or society as a whole, right?

You know what? What harms society is not someone's gender preference. It is other people's ignorant, and in my opinion, bigoted perceptions about someone else's lifestyle; especially since it is noone's business but the people involvled!!!!

catmar

:notworthy

RRoman

I belive it has already been pointed out that homosexuality is not a philosophical stance, but let me try something nonetheless:

Many people consider something to be ethically wrong if it harms someone or society as a whole, right? So consider if everyone on earth became infertile. The human race would be wiped out in a matter of decades. Is the extinction of the human race harmful to someone or society as a whole?...

So consider if everyone on earth became female. The human race would be wiped out in a matter of decades. Is the extinction of the human race harmful to someone or society as a whole?...

Also, there are many animals that engage in homosexual/bisexual/self-sexual etc. behavior apart from the insects you mentioned, such as bonobos, dolphins, flamingoes etc.

Just some things I wanted to point out. You can now go back to arguing about whether it is immoral for two people to marry despite having incompatible genitalia.

Autonemesis

Hummus.

Autonemesis

Is there any reason at all to even speculate whether this circumstance could possibly have the slightest chance of actualization to any significant or insignifcant extent that could even remotely pose the merest hint of a whisper of a threat, implied or explicit, to the survival of homo sapiens?



How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

I am always totally boggled whenever I encounter someone that harbors this fear of gays, and that we are taking over. I see it again and again, yet it absolutely throws me for a loop every time.

Autonemesis

Eh, you miss the point. The disorder is wanting to be immoral, see? If you're gay and don't want to be that's one thing, there's probably hope for you and even if there isn't, misery is a virtue. But these **derogatory language removed by moderator* who are proud of it got another thing coming.

Don't ask me about people who want to be schizophrenic. Stay on topic.

Autonemesis

Threesome!

Autonemesis

Now, now - that's Appeal to Authority.

PandaJoe

Consider this-

combined with this-

You are claiming that to be homosexual, one cannot perform any acts you consider to be heterosexual. However, you'll also have to apply this principle to doctors, won't you? A doctor can't do anything that a doctor doesn't do, so Dr. Rick's analogy works.

This doesn't change anything, since it's what you've been arguing. You were claiming homosexuality is always bad because of a hypothetical situation.