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Nick Roberts · 11-15-2002, 03:53 AM

Admiration - Bob Geldof, for being a 'drunk, foul mouthed paddy' (his words), but with more energy and genuine human compassion in his little finger than the sum of every religeous institution on the planet back in 1984.

Emulation - Paula Radcilffe - talent and honesty wrapped in as nice a person as you could ever wish to meet.

Marduk · 11-15-2002, 06:22 AM

"I actually admire Zecharia Sitchin for having enough moxie to research and write about a topic labeled as "crackpot junk science/mythology".
Some people are never intimidated by prevailing ideas and have enough strength to espouse some pretty far out concepts."

I'll go along with that up to a point, he did get me interested in ancient history and the Sumerian origins of Bible stories. And he does seem quite sincere and persistent. But he did not originate this theory, it has been around since at least the 1920's (perhaps earlier) and one of the founders of the Mormon Church B. Young I believe, aluded to this as well. Even Carl Sagan in his younger days (1950's) was aware of the Oannes stories of Sumer and gave this idea some credence. If you've read his book 'Demon Haunted World' he lists ancient alien artifacts' as one of the 'pseudosicences' that deserves some investigation. Sitchin seems to go to far with many of his assumptions, he tries to make it into a soap opera of sorts.

Back to the topic at hand,
I try and emulate my dog

BTW You can catch Oannes himself in one of the first season Stargate SG-1 episodes.

[ November 15, 2002: Message edited by: marduck ]

FreethinkinFeline · 11-15-2002, 07:00 AM

PLEASE explain who the person is!!

Marduk · 11-15-2002, 07:06 AM

"please explain who the person is"
Zecharia Sitchin is the author of "The 12th Planet" among other books, his theory is that all religions are based on encounters with Aliens in prehistory. Aliens came to Earth, genetically altered apelike hominids to create homosapiens to be their servants since they were stuck on Earth. Read the ancient poem "Atrahasis"

<a href="http://www.piney.com/Atrahasis.html" target="_blank">http://www.piney.com/Atrahasis.html</a>
God is an alien.
There are many such old stories.

FreethinkinFeline · 11-15-2002, 07:15 AM

I admire them because of their bravery, but I wouldn't EMULATE them!
Newdow and O'Connor

Marduk · 11-15-2002, 07:19 AM

Richard Feynman Physicist, worked on Manhattan Project
Richard Dawkins. Biologist/writer tries to explain evolution to laypeople, fights creationist nonsense
Joseph Campbell-author of 'The Power of Myth" noted mythologist (great book to!)
James Randi-magician and fraud debunker CISCOP
Bertrand Russell-Philosopher
Robert Ingersoll-atheist lecturer/writer
Carl Sagan- Astronomer/science writer

[ November 15, 2002: Message edited by: marduck ]

Richard1366 · 11-15-2002, 08:17 AM

Lance Armstrong
Cancer Survivor
4 time winner Tour de France
husband
father
agnostic

Walter_Mitty · 11-15-2002, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gregg:


Is he the guy from "Army of Darkness"? Why him? Just curious, I don't know much about him.

Gregg

I don't know if <a href="http://dir.yahoo.com/Entertainment/actors_and_actresses/campbell__bruce/" target="_blank">BRUCE</a> is religious or not but he sure makes me laugh so I thought I'd throw him in!

LordSnooty · 11-15-2002, 03:31 PM

The person I most admire is Robert G. Ingersoll - the finest man that ever lived.

Paul

sighhswolf · 11-16-2002, 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by marduck:
"I actually admire Zecharia Sitchin for having enough moxie to research and write about a topic labeled as "crackpot junk science/mythology".
Some people are never intimidated by prevailing ideas and have enough strength to espouse some pretty far out concepts."

I'll go along with that up to a point, he did get me interested in ancient history and the Sumerian origins of Bible stories. And he does seem quite sincere and persistent. But he did not originate this theory, it has been around since at least the 1920's (perhaps earlier) and one of the founders of the Mormon Church B. Young I believe, aluded to this as well. Even Carl Sagan in his younger days (1950's) was aware of the Oannes stories of Sumer and gave this idea some credence. If you've read his book 'Demon Haunted World' he lists ancient alien artifacts' as one of the 'pseudosicences' that deserves some investigation. Sitchin seems to go to far with many of his assumptions, he tries to make it into a soap opera of sorts.

Back to the topic at hand,
I try and emulate my dog

BTW You can catch Oannes himself in one of the first season Stargate SG-1 episodes.

[ November 15, 2002: Message edited by: marduck ]

I saw that one, one of my favorite series Stargate SG-1.
Amazing how those writers kept the story line alive and following egyptian mythology.
In one episode SG-1 encounters an culture with
"Thor" the norse thunder god as their supreme being.
Wolf

11-15-2002, 06:22 AM	#22
Marduk Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: the 10th planet Posts: 5,065	"I actually admire Zecharia Sitchin for having enough moxie to research and write about a topic labeled as "crackpot junk science/mythology". Some people are never intimidated by prevailing ideas and have enough strength to espouse some pretty far out concepts." I'll go along with that up to a point, he did get me interested in ancient history and the Sumerian origins of Bible stories. And he does seem quite sincere and persistent. But he did not originate this theory, it has been around since at least the 1920's (perhaps earlier) and one of the founders of the Mormon Church B. Young I believe, aluded to this as well. Even Carl Sagan in his younger days (1950's) was aware of the Oannes stories of Sumer and gave this idea some credence. If you've read his book 'Demon Haunted World' he lists ancient alien artifacts' as one of the 'pseudosicences' that deserves some investigation. Sitchin seems to go to far with many of his assumptions, he tries to make it into a soap opera of sorts. Back to the topic at hand, I try and emulate my dog BTW You can catch Oannes himself in one of the first season Stargate SG-1 episodes. [ November 15, 2002: Message edited by: marduck ]</p>

11-15-2002, 07:19 AM	#26
Marduk Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: the 10th planet Posts: 5,065	Richard Feynman Physicist, worked on Manhattan Project Richard Dawkins. Biologist/writer tries to explain evolution to laypeople, fights creationist nonsense Joseph Campbell-author of 'The Power of Myth" noted mythologist (great book to!) James Randi-magician and fraud debunker CISCOP Bertrand Russell-Philosopher Robert Ingersoll-atheist lecturer/writer Carl Sagan- Astronomer/science writer [ November 15, 2002: Message edited by: marduck ]</p>

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11-15-2002, 03:53 AM	#21
Nick Roberts Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: England Posts: 38	Admiration - Bob Geldof, for being a 'drunk, foul mouthed paddy' (his words), but with more energy and genuine human compassion in his little finger than the sum of every religeous institution on the planet back in 1984. Emulation - Paula Radcilffe - talent and honesty wrapped in as nice a person as you could ever wish to meet.

11-15-2002, 07:00 AM	#23
FreethinkinFeline Regular Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 109	PLEASE explain who the person is!!

11-15-2002, 07:06 AM	#24
Marduk Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: the 10th planet Posts: 5,065	"please explain who the person is" Zecharia Sitchin is the author of "The 12th Planet" among other books, his theory is that all religions are based on encounters with Aliens in prehistory. Aliens came to Earth, genetically altered apelike hominids to create homosapiens to be their servants since they were stuck on Earth. Read the ancient poem "Atrahasis" <a href="http://www.piney.com/Atrahasis.html" target="_blank">http://www.piney.com/Atrahasis.html</a> God is an alien. There are many such old stories.

11-15-2002, 07:15 AM	#25
FreethinkinFeline Regular Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 109	I admire them because of their bravery, but I wouldn't EMULATE them! Newdow and O'Connor

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Richard1366 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 1,260	Lance Armstrong Cancer Survivor 4 time winner Tour de France husband father agnostic

11-15-2002, 03:31 PM	#29
LordSnooty Regular Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: England Posts: 211	The person I most admire is Robert G. Ingersoll - the finest man that ever lived. Paul

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