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09-02-2002, 11:05 PM

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LADYSMITH, Wisconsin - A tornado ripped apart a northwestern Wisconsin town, leveling a Baptist church and a gas station and injuring dozens of people, witnesses and officials said.

<a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20020903/ap_wo_en_po/us_wisconsin_tornado_1" target="_blank">Full story from AP</a>

Where was God? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">

David Bowden · 09-02-2002, 11:24 PM

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Originally posted by atheist_in_foxhole:
Where was God?

It's September. God always takes the first couple of weeks in September off and hands the controls to one of the other mythical entities.

Dunno who's got it this year, but last year about this time Allah took the opportunity to play darts with a few of our airliners...

09-03-2002, 12:07 AM

I just heard on the radio that a nun was raped and murdered in Oregon the other day.

But the Xians still insist that their god is a loving god. I'll never understand this kind of thinking!

[ September 03, 2002: Message edited by: atheist_in_foxhole ]

abe smith · 09-03-2002, 06:27 AM

:The Lisbon earthquake back in the mid-18th? century knocked-down the RC cathedral there and killed several thousand good christians. That sort of thing, and for example, the Black
Death etc , tend to shake some believers's faith; but you know, some human beings are (probably biologically/genetically wired?) eager to "believe" and Reality probably hasn't much to do w/ it.

Jove · 09-03-2002, 07:27 AM

Heh. My church was struck by lightning and burned to the ground, a few years back.

ImGod · 09-03-2002, 08:15 AM

He was just answering their remodeling prayers.

XMagickaX · 09-03-2002, 08:35 AM

Call me a wimp but I really think this whole thread is innapropriate.

Poking fun or mocking other people's travesties is hardly a respectable pastime. Especially about the two nuns...They were horribly violated and I find it hard to believe you would continue to make comments like that had they been two "regular" women.

You think they don't feel every bit as violated as any woman who is raped?

<a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002-09-03-nun-attack_x.htm" target="_blank">If this doesnt impact you at all...you need help.</a>

[ September 03, 2002: Message edited by: XMagickaX ]

Viti · 09-03-2002, 09:01 AM

XMAgickaX...nobody is "poking fun", they are pointing out the theists absurd assertions that they are somehow magically protected from such disaster by their God.

Yes, anyone being brutally raped is a horror and happens far too much and often. The fact that nuns, the brides of Christ are not protected by their faith is simply evidence that there is no God to my mind.

Take this statement by the surviving nun

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"We don't understand why what happened, but it's all in His plan. Whatever His reason, we'll know in eternity. It's so hard for us on earth to fathom these things."

God's plan was for her to be sexually assaulted and another nun killed? What kind of sick twisted religion comes up with this??

[ September 03, 2002: Message edited by: LadyShea ]

XMagickaX · 09-03-2002, 09:11 AM

Lady Shea...You're probably right. But I still just think that even discussing it so candidly is just a little upsetting. That's just me.

I don't understand either why Christians think they have a magic blanket...even in the Bible they are told there will be trials to endure. I just don't understand things in the world any more I guess...

Travo5 · 09-03-2002, 09:17 AM

How ironic and devastating.

Hopefully these people will realize that the responsibility to recover rests in their hands, not some recondite entity who cares not to interfere with the laws of nature to protect them.

By the way, this reminds me...who said, "A church with a lightning rod doesn't show much confidence"? (or something along those lines)

Regards,
Travis

[ September 03, 2002: Message edited by: Travo5 ]

09-03-2002, 12:07 AM	#3
atheist_in_foxhole Guest Posts: n/a	I just heard on the radio that a nun was raped and murdered in Oregon the other day. But the Xians still insist that their god is a loving god. I'll never understand this kind of thinking! [ September 03, 2002: Message edited by: atheist_in_foxhole ]</p>

09-03-2002, 08:35 AM	#7
XMagickaX Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: ;) Posts: 27	Call me a wimp but I really think this whole thread is innapropriate. Poking fun or mocking other people's travesties is hardly a respectable pastime. Especially about the two nuns...They were horribly violated and I find it hard to believe you would continue to make comments like that had they been two "regular" women. You think they don't feel every bit as violated as any woman who is raped? <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002-09-03-nun-attack_x.htm" target="_blank">If this doesnt impact you at all...you need help.</a> [ September 03, 2002: Message edited by: XMagickaX ]</p>

09-03-2002, 09:17 AM	#10
Travo5 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Houston Posts: 16	How ironic and devastating. Hopefully these people will realize that the responsibility to recover rests in their hands, not some recondite entity who cares not to interfere with the laws of nature to protect them. By the way, this reminds me...who said, "A church with a lightning rod doesn't show much confidence"? (or something along those lines) Regards, Travis [ September 03, 2002: Message edited by: Travo5 ]</p>

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09-03-2002, 06:27 AM	#4
abe smith Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: springfield, MA. USA Posts: 2,482	:The Lisbon earthquake back in the mid-18th? century knocked-down the RC cathedral there and killed several thousand good christians. That sort of thing, and for example, the Black Death etc , tend to shake some believers's faith; but you know, some human beings are (probably biologically/genetically wired?) eager to "believe" and Reality probably hasn't much to do w/ it.

09-03-2002, 07:27 AM	#5
Jove Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 63	Heh. My church was struck by lightning and burned to the ground, a few years back.

09-03-2002, 08:15 AM	#6
ImGod Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nebraska Posts: 6,264	He was just answering their remodeling prayers.

09-03-2002, 09:11 AM	#9
XMagickaX Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: ;) Posts: 27	Lady Shea...You're probably right. But I still just think that even discussing it so candidly is just a little upsetting. That's just me. I don't understand either why Christians think they have a magic blanket...even in the Bible they are told there will be trials to endure. I just don't understand things in the world any more I guess...

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