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Jamie_L · 09-17-2002, 05:52 AM

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Life is a search for truth. And there is no truth.

Source unknown (some Far Eastern philosophy, I think)

Jamie

Jessie_84 · 09-17-2002, 06:17 AM

The Meaning of Life varies from person to person.

Some look for meaning in everything
Some look for particular things
Some just live life as it comes
Some live life according to a bible/religious scripture
Some live to a philosophy they have developed.
Some live to surivie just the day

So the meaning of life is derivied from how you life it. Thus different from person to person. There is no way there could be a universial meaning of life, that would suitable apply.

I personally think its to find the truth of yourself, discover yourself and reach a point where you are compltely happy and satisified with who you are and your poistion in life.

Jonesy · 09-17-2002, 07:14 AM

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Originally posted by Steven1987:
anyone got any theories on the meaning of life? i'd like to here them.

Please read this:

I think it is the best explanation for the meaning of life. The beauti of this book is amazing because logically it all makes perfect sense. I ignored the author's other interests (which may be of weird nature), but with this book, he has a point:

<a href="http://www.thiaoouba.com/freedom.zip" target="_blank">www.thiaoouba.com/freedom.zip</a>

password "free". (this is a pdf file).

The book is "a theory" as you ask. But I found that personally, it makes much more sense that it could be considered 'intellectual proof'. (while being 'material theory').

Laera · 09-17-2002, 07:56 AM

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Originally posted by Jonesy:
Please read this:

I think it is the best explanation for the meaning of life. The beauti of this book is amazing because logically it all makes perfect sense. I ignored the author's other interests (which may be of weird nature), but with this book, he has a point:

<a href="http://www.thiaoouba.com/freedom.zip" target="_blank">www.thiaoouba.com/freedom.zip</a>

password "free". (this is a pdf file).

The book is "a theory" as you ask. But I found that personally, it makes much more sense that it could be considered 'intellectual proof'. (while being 'material theory').

So you derive your "life's purpose" from the tired (and many-times refuted) watchmaker argument?

I'd have to go with everyone who's said "life is what you make of it," myself.

Answerer · 09-17-2002, 07:59 AM

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Originally posted by Samhain:


I disagree, while death may be an inevitable fact of life, it is not, in any sense, an actual goal. Those who exist or wish to exist do not strive their whole lives for death, many of us hardly even prepare ourselves beyond legal wills, etc. The theist, will of course, make atonement with their "creator" but very few actually "prepare" themselves for this one moment beyond that. In a sense, they may have "prepared" themselves in the sense that they have tried to fulfill all of their life-goals before this moment, but I fail to see how this meets the criteria of "goal" in any way based upon that alone.

Further, I object to the idea that death holds any "importance" at all, I'd be willing to contest that it is the negation of importance rather than holding any importance in itself. It holds no meaning, as it is the complete absence of life, and many struggle their whole lives to overcome and attempt to defeat death. While it may be a common existential view that life is absurd and meaningless, this does not mean that it cannot hold some personal meaning, therefore the negation of even what meaning we can hold to (death) is even more absurd than existence. Existence can hold some personal meaning, death holds no meaning at all and negates any previous meaning formed by existence.

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work... I want to achieve it by not dying!"
-Woody Allen

I'm talking about some anicent Eastern and Eygptian point of views and beliefs if you haven't noticed yet. Of course, in materialistic point of view, death holds no meanings and even to the extent of creating pessimistic thoughts and views among the people. However, there is one thing for sure, in reality, death and life are truly inseparable and no one could just consider only the 'hidden' meaning of one side while neglecting other. Their meanings and roles had to be considered together.
To put in the other words, you simply can't explain or define existence without giving any reference to non-existence, they are mutually dependent. If you said that the end of life is meaningless, then how could the process of life hold any meanings as well since it meant to end itself in a miserable and meaningless way from the very beginning ?

seanie · 09-17-2002, 08:05 AM

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M-hmm. Well, it's nothing very special. Uh, try and be nice to people, avoid eating fat, read a good book every now and then, get some walking in, and try and live together in peace and harmony with people of all creeds and nations....

Samhain · 09-17-2002, 11:46 AM

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Originally posted by Answerer:


I'm talking about some anicent Eastern and Eygptian point of views and beliefs if you haven't noticed yet. Of course, in materialistic point of view, death holds no meanings and even to the extent of creating pessimistic thoughts and views among the people. However, there is one thing for sure, in reality, death and life are truly inseparable and no one could just consider only the 'hidden' meaning of one side while neglecting other. Their meanings and roles had to be considered together.
To put in the other words, you simply can't explain or define existence without giving any reference to non-existence, they are mutually dependent. If you said that the end of life is meaningless, then how could the process of life hold any meanings as well since it meant to end itself in a miserable and meaningless way from the very beginning ?

Simply put, life doesn't hold any meaning.

tronvillain · 09-17-2002, 01:43 PM

Life has no objective or ultimate meaning, but it obviously has subjective and personal meaning. I enjoy life - I eat, I drink, I fuck, I play, I talk, and I work. What more do you want?

Laurentius · 09-17-2002, 01:56 PM

Why?

Infinity Lover · 09-17-2002, 02:06 PM

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Originally posted by tronvillain:
 I eat, I drink, I fuck, I play, I talk, and I work. What more do you want?

A poem about butterflies, I want you to write a poem about butterflies...

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09-17-2002, 06:17 AM	#52
Jessie_84 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Melbourne Posts: 7	The Meaning of Life varies from person to person. Some look for meaning in everything Some look for particular things Some just live life as it comes Some live life according to a bible/religious scripture Some live to a philosophy they have developed. Some live to surivie just the day So the meaning of life is derivied from how you life it. Thus different from person to person. There is no way there could be a universial meaning of life, that would suitable apply. I personally think its to find the truth of yourself, discover yourself and reach a point where you are compltely happy and satisified with who you are and your poistion in life.

09-17-2002, 01:43 PM	#58
tronvillain Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 5,658	Life has no objective or ultimate meaning, but it obviously has subjective and personal meaning. I enjoy life - I eat, I drink, I fuck, I play, I talk, and I work. What more do you want?

09-17-2002, 01:56 PM	#59
Laurentius Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Lucky Bucky, Oz Posts: 5,645	Why?

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