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Belle · 11-15-2002, 05:31 AM

This just chaps my A!$. I can understand reprimanding the guys caught after curfew. I don't think a heterosexual would have been fired. I could be wrong since I'm not familiar with that aspect of the military. But firing them because they said they were gay. Come to think of it why would they even bring that up? Maybe they wanted out.

<a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20021114/ap_on_re_us/gay_military_linguists_2" target="_blank">http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20021114/ap_on_re_us/gay_military_linguists_2</a>

Nataraja · 11-15-2002, 06:11 AM

I wouldn't be surprised. The Army is corrupt. I wouldn't be surprised if people wanted out. There are better things to do with your life.

Nataraja · 11-15-2002, 06:15 AM

Come to think of it, though, being AWOL is an offense punishable by anything from a reprimand to execution (no fucking kidding).

faustuz · 11-15-2002, 03:16 PM

Next time a plane flies into a building because our vaunted intelligence apparatus didn�t have the resources to translate the terrorist chatter fast enough we�ll all know who to blame (not that it will do any good).

Sheer stupidity.

[ November 15, 2002: Message edited by: faustuz ]</p>

Toto · 11-15-2002, 04:57 PM

Also posted in the Political Forum:

<a href="http://iidb.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=46&t=001504" target="_blank">Army Dismisses Nine Gay Arabic Linguists </a>

Although there's not much more you can say about it.

Voltaire Is My Hero · 11-19-2002, 01:47 PM

*Yes, I read the Yahoo! news article pertaining to this.

The fact that these linguists are gay is, to the Feds, more important than helping national security?!

Homophobia scores another point in the Assinine League.

--Cindy

Shadowy Man · 11-19-2002, 02:35 PM

My brother just finished his Arabic training at DLI. He is not gay, though. He might know some of the people who were kicked out.

An interesting side note is that some other very good linguists are excluded from continuing their military intelligence training due to not getting top secret clearance.

NialScorva · 11-20-2002, 07:28 AM

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Originally posted by Shadowy Man:
<strong>My brother just finished his Arabic training at DLI. He is not gay, though. He might know some of the people who were kicked out.

An interesting side note is that some other very good linguists are excluded from continuing their military intelligence training due to not getting top secret clearance.</strong>

That's probably a good thing.

Shadowy Man · 11-20-2002, 09:17 AM

Not really, because you can not get your security clearance for really dumb reasons that have nothing to do with your trustworthiness or loyalty to the country.

ImGod · 11-20-2002, 09:48 AM

My wife worked with a linguistic specialist who was recalled to the military last year. He had put 5 years in as a specialist and was out of the military. He was 2 weeks away from the point where he was officially finished and couldn't be recalled to duty when he got his papers (not as a reserve but some type of clause due to the level of specialized training and his security clearance).

He sold his house due to the pay cut, his wife moved in with his dad, and he spent a week with his new baby daughter (now one) before shipping off to the fun parts of the world. He's assigned to a special forces unit.

Based on their last communication with him, I think he would blow his commanding officer if he thought it would get him home.

11-15-2002, 05:31 AM	#1
Belle Regular Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 498	Gay linguists fired from Army This just chaps my A!$. I can understand reprimanding the guys caught after curfew. I don't think a heterosexual would have been fired. I could be wrong since I'm not familiar with that aspect of the military. But firing them because they said they were gay. Come to think of it why would they even bring that up? Maybe they wanted out. <a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20021114/ap_on_re_us/gay_military_linguists_2" target="_blank">http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20021114/ap_on_re_us/gay_military_linguists_2</a>

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11-15-2002, 06:11 AM	#2
Nataraja Regular Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NC Posts: 433	I wouldn't be surprised. The Army is corrupt. I wouldn't be surprised if people wanted out. There are better things to do with your life.

11-15-2002, 06:15 AM	#3
Nataraja Regular Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NC Posts: 433	Come to think of it, though, being AWOL is an offense punishable by anything from a reprimand to execution (no fucking kidding).

11-15-2002, 03:16 PM	#4
faustuz Regular Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: SoCal Posts: 207	Next time a plane flies into a building because our vaunted intelligence apparatus didn�t have the resources to translate the terrorist chatter fast enough we�ll all know who to blame (not that it will do any good). Sheer stupidity. [ November 15, 2002: Message edited by: faustuz ]</p>

11-15-2002, 04:57 PM	#5
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	Also posted in the Political Forum: <a href="http://iidb.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=46&t=001504" target="_blank">Army Dismisses Nine Gay Arabic Linguists </a> Although there's not much more you can say about it.

11-19-2002, 01:47 PM	#6
Voltaire Is My Hero Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USA Posts: 33	*Yes, I read the Yahoo! news article pertaining to this. The fact that these linguists are gay is, to the Feds, more important than helping national security?! Homophobia scores another point in the Assinine League. --Cindy

11-19-2002, 02:35 PM	#7
Shadowy Man Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Shadowy Planet Posts: 7,585	My brother just finished his Arabic training at DLI. He is not gay, though. He might know some of the people who were kicked out. An interesting side note is that some other very good linguists are excluded from continuing their military intelligence training due to not getting top secret clearance.

11-20-2002, 09:17 AM	#9
Shadowy Man Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Shadowy Planet Posts: 7,585	Not really, because you can not get your security clearance for really dumb reasons that have nothing to do with your trustworthiness or loyalty to the country.

11-20-2002, 09:48 AM	#10
ImGod Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nebraska Posts: 6,264	My wife worked with a linguistic specialist who was recalled to the military last year. He had put 5 years in as a specialist and was out of the military. He was 2 weeks away from the point where he was officially finished and couldn't be recalled to duty when he got his papers (not as a reserve but some type of clause due to the level of specialized training and his security clearance). He sold his house due to the pay cut, his wife moved in with his dad, and he spent a week with his new baby daughter (now one) before shipping off to the fun parts of the world. He's assigned to a special forces unit. Based on their last communication with him, I think he would blow his commanding officer if he thought it would get him home.

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