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Diadectes · 07-25-2003, 03:06 AM

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Because 4-5 billion people believe and are convinced of His existence. Many without a shadow of a doubt.

Magus, once again I have to point out to you the very simple and observable fact that just because lots of people believe something doesn't make it true. This is the most feeble justification for religion ever invented.

Boro Nut · 07-25-2003, 04:49 AM

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Originally posted by Magus55
What would be convincing enough for you to believe in God ? You can't claim that God actually standing in front of you would work because as the Bible said, people saw Jesus perform miracles right in front of their face and still didn't believe. So what could possibly convince you?

What an outstanding God you have. He seems to have the power to do anything except make atheist believe he exists. Even I can do that, and I'm only an imortal.

Boro Nut

Magus55 · 07-25-2003, 08:28 AM

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What an outstanding God you have. He seems to have the power to do anything except make atheist believe he exists. Even I can do that, and I'm only an imortal.

Boro Nut

Why should He make you believe He exists? You don't really care, so why should He bother? He's just letting you have what you want - the belief that He doesn't exist. He isn't gonna force you to believe He exists, thats up to you.

Normal · 07-25-2003, 08:34 AM

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Originally posted by mark9950
Meeting God in person.

I could just imagine the logical arguments against god if an atheist met him.

1. I am meeting you in person.
2. I exist as a function of the universe.
3. I can only interact with things that are existants within the universe.
4. I am interacting with you.
5. You must exist as a function of the universe.
6. Therefore, you did not create the universe, you are an existant within the universe. I want to talk to the real god.

Mageth · 07-25-2003, 08:36 AM

He's just letting you have what you want - the belief that He doesn't exist.

Actually, what I would want is, if he exists, for him to let me know.

He isn't gonna force you to believe He exists, thats up to you.

I'm supposed to force myself to believe he exists? So that's how it works.

Jack the Bodiless · 07-25-2003, 08:37 AM

Magus:

The problem isn't that we CAN'T comprehend God. The problem is that we CAN.

All too easily.

Normal · 07-25-2003, 08:39 AM

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Actually, what I would want is, if he exists, for him to let me know.

How could he show you without you writing it off as natural phenomena explainable by science?

Dont worry, I know what your going to say.

"He should know how, he's omnipotent".

Mageth · 07-25-2003, 08:41 AM

Exactly.

Division By Zero · 07-25-2003, 08:43 AM

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Originally posted by Normal
How could he show you without you writing it off as natural phenomena explainable by science?

Dont worry, I know what your going to say.

"He should know how, he's omnipotent".

If God exists, let him now create a thirty-foot-high talking 8-Ball wearing a green toupee in my back yard.

...

Hmm. Guess he didn't hear me.

keyser_soze · 07-25-2003, 08:48 AM

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If God exists, let him now create a thirty-foot-high talking 8-Ball wearing a green toupee in my back yard.

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Hmm. Guess he didn't hear me.

Damnit, he put it in my backyard! Can't even read a map.....Pathetic.

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07-25-2003, 08:36 AM	#25
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	He's just letting you have what you want - the belief that He doesn't exist. Actually, what I would want is, if he exists, for him to let me know. He isn't gonna force you to believe He exists, thats up to you. I'm supposed to force myself to believe he exists? So that's how it works.

07-25-2003, 08:37 AM	#26
Jack the Bodiless Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: UK Posts: 5,815	Magus: The problem isn't that we CAN'T comprehend God. The problem is that we CAN. All too easily.

07-25-2003, 08:41 AM	#28
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	Exactly.

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