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Old 11-22-2002, 05:34 PM   #31
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"Quite the opposite, no and no.

I am one of those who does not fear enough, so I sometimes get in trouble when I push the limits, although I generally act in a rational manner despite my lack of fear."

My reply : Get in trouble as in asking too much question about the same question over and over again despite of various attempt by others to answer it?

"I get along with people of all ages, from babies to octogenarians. Of course, I <slightly> change the way I relate to someone depending on what age category they fall into. I am a bullshiter- I fish for a topic of conversation that appeals to the group and make everyone feel included in the conversation."

My reply : OK, I guess you enter a debate if you feel like it. That's understandable.

"That is a needless ad hominem.
I was bringing up the fact that the blame switching trick is one that is used in cults to were down the ego of the individuals that the cult is attempting to convert. It is also used by cult leaders to justify their actions against weak minds (like Jimmy Baker accepting donations). "

My reply : There is a different from being tricked by someone and being tricked by your own ego. In most cases, people of guilty for latter than former situation where they get tricked by their own ego.

"There are reasons we lock up individuals who con older/younger people who don't know any better. If you cannot understand the reasons, and instead switch the blame to the people who cannot take care of themself, you are not someone I want around the children or older members of society. "

My reply : On the contrary, I could teach my children (if I ever have any) the different between a con man and one who tells the truth by teaching them about reasoning. I don't not protect them from their own lack of reasoning power since I cannot be around to protect them all the time or forever. And since they will grow up and have their own children, they will not be able to teach theirs about reasoning if I didn't teach them now.
I teach other how to protect themselves, I do not protect them.

"Who else can you trust? "

My reply : Why should I trust someone else IF I don't trust myself?

"Nope. "

My reply : Thanks. No further argument.

"This is a funny discussion to have but: If you actually had these powers, you would be able to go to a lab and demonstrate them. People would then have a solid basis to request funding for additional research on phenomena such as you describe. Information about your "powers" would be in scientific journals, and your "powers" would be put to the test, confirmed if they are real."

My reply : Even if it appeared in a scientific journal, will you (someone who is on the other side of the Planet) believe in someone like myself, no matter what evidence I produce?
I don't think so because you do not know me or what I see or feel, thus your opinion will be based on what you know or feel rather than what I have proven (at least to myself). In the end, the only one I will prove is myself, no one else.

"Of course, I do not take your word at face value, because you have not gone to an actual lab and demonstrated your powers in such a way that makes your claims believable."

My reply : Acceptable.

"Is your claim that you do not knowingly lie or that you (or your word) are the ultimate arbiter of truth?

If you are saying that you do not knowingly lie, the statement "I DO NOT lie" is a lie, because you cannot truthfully say that you know that you have never told an unintentional falsehood.

If you are claiming that you (or your word) are the ultimate arbiter of truth, than you are lying, because there are many truths that are created and destroyed every day that you have no knowledge of.

Either way, someone claiming that they do not lie should be looked upon with suspicion or humor (depending on whether they are trying to gain something or in the humorous case if they actually believe it, hehehe). "

My reply : Your statement indeed something to be laughed at.
When I said I don't lie, it simply means I don't lie based on what I know. My claims is simply that I don't add anything which I don't know.
I give you example, assuming I'm talking to someone in New York now, it is 10.30 in the morning here in my country now while in New York it could be around 8.30 in the evening. I said to him (in NY) "good morning", did that mean I have lied?
 
 

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