Magus55

Well, many atheists don't in fact want to believe in God. Some Hate God so much they'd prefer to be in Hell. And thats their choice. And Scientists are seeking to disprove it - and they may be searching for the truth, but its right in front of them and they still can't see it. Scientists are trying to find the truth in a world of lies.

And why do you assume Christians are morons and have no brain, just because they believe in God? I don't dismiss every scientific discovery in the world. I only question the ones with hidden agendas and faulty assumptions based on outdated observations and theories of what it should be based on, instead of what it is.

hezekiah jones

Originally posted by Magus55
Some [atheists] Hate God so much they'd prefer to be in Hell.

Atheists don't believe in god.

Originally posted by Magus55
And why do you assume Christians are morons and have no brain, just because they believe in God?

I can think of one that doesn't use his much.

Originally posted by Magus55
I don't dismiss every scientific discovery in the world.

Elsewhere you said you "don't give a crap" what scientists say. Your inconsistencies are very much on display this evening.

winstonjen

If god exists as you have described, who can blame them?

Quite a generalisation there. What about all the Christian scientists, including the ones who agree with evolution? Do they seek to destroy their own faith?

And why do you assume atheists are morons and have no brain, just because they do not believe in God? I don't dismiss every scientific discovery in the world. I only question the ones with hidden agendas and faulty assumptions based on outdated observations and theories of what it should be based on, instead of what it is.

Fundie research has a lot of hidden agendas, as do their churches who try to prevent the use of contraception.

Magus55

I never said your morality is any less than mine. I'm a sinner like every other human on Earth. Your morality however is much lesser than God's.

Just look at the world. An infested cesspool of sex crazed, hateful, envious, arrogant, selfish people. Do most people have a good side? Yes, but their sin shows through more often. The majority of the world thinks the pornography industry is acceptable. Thats disgusting. If you accept things like that, you can't possibly claim your morality is equal to God's. You may think nothing is wrong with promiscuous sex, but look what its lead to - 40 million dead babies and countless millions infected by diseases - some terminal. There is reason God forbids premarital sex - because it leads to many many problems. Humans are too irresponsible.

winstonjen

If you're born again, wouldn't your morality be the same as Jesus' morality? Therefore you are claiming to have better morals.

Why? Relief of sexual tension through pornography can prevent crimes like rape. It was things such as celibacy and abstention that partially contribute to pedophillia among priests.

Why not? I don't commit genocide or set plagues on people simply because they do something I happen to disagree with.

A better idea would be to not create those STDs in the first place. But I know you're just going to say, 'god knows best'. :boohoo:

Magus55

God doesn't believe in Atheists.


Shows how much you know about me. Shall i report this to a moderator for the personal attack?

Gee, sorry - maybe i'll specify next time - I don't care what scientists with faulty assumptions based on inconsistent observations have to say ( Macroevolutionists, Big Bang theorists etc.). Basically the only scientists i don't agree with are the ones trying to explain the origin of life and the universe.

hezekiah jones

Originally posted by Magus55
I never said your morality is any less than mine.

You claim "god's morality." You claim it is greater than mine.

Originally posted by Magus55
I'm a sinner like every other human on Earth.

Like every other Christian you mean. Sin is for Christians.

Originally posted by Magus55
Your morality however is much lesser than God's.

And your morality is god's morality. Nice dodge.

Originally posted by Magus55
Just look at the world. An infested cesspool of sex crazed, hateful, envious, arrogant, selfish people.

Unlike fundamentalist Christians, I tend not to obsess over those things. The world is also full of great beauty, art, music, friendship, humor, and love. Fundies dwell on the above litany of shit, not me.

Originally posted by Magus55
Do most people have a good side? Yes, but their sin shows through more often.

Only because you're obsessed with venality and filth, like every other typical fundie.

Originally posted by Magus55
The majority of the world thinks the pornography industry is acceptable. Thats disgusting. If you accept things like that, you can't possibly claim your morality is equal to God's.

I couldn't give two shits what the guy next door chooses for his masturbation aids, so long as they are not defenseless children. Why should I? Who's he hurting? And what the fuck would god care?

Originally posted by Magus55
You may think nothing is wrong with promiscuous sex, but look what its lead to - 40 million dead babies and countless millions infected by diseases - some terminal.

No, I don't think there's anything wrong with promiscuous sex, within reason. What business is it of mine if people want to engage in their biologically predetermined function? And what business is it of yours? Who do you think you are - god?

Originally posted by Magus55
There is reason God forbids premarital sex - because it leads to many many problems. Humans are too irresponsible.

There is no god, Magus. If there is such a god as you postulate, he's a petulant, whiny schoolgirl that needs to get a fucking hobby and mind his own goddamn business, just like very other filth-obsessed fundie.

Magus55

My goal is to have the morality of Jesus - I try to live up to His standards, but of course I'm gonna fail. I'm still in a sinful body, on a sinful planet.



And if humans had any self control, they wouldn't need pornography or rape.



Has nothing to do with disagreeing - its called, committing crimes against God, and being punished for them.



And where would the lesson in that be? Get rid of STD's so humans can have sex with whoever they want, whenever? Lust is still a sin, and there is always the problem of unwanted pregnancies leading to abortions and the deaths of millions of babies. Want to avoid the consequences of stupid actions? Don't sleep around.

winstonjen

Yet atheists exist. What proof do you have of your deity? (Solid proof, that cannot be interpreted any other way by any one else)

Says the pot to the kettle, after repeatedly claiming the high moral ground, simply because you believe in god.

Ah, so you only accept those who try to explain the origin of life and the universe if they're using a 2000+ year old book that has all the hallmarks of being written by hallucinating religious figures out in the desert.

hezekiah jones

Originally posted by Magus55
Shall i report this to a moderator for the personal attack?

I really don't care. Suggesting you apply a bit of critical thinking is a far less egregious statement than your suggestions that atheists are somehow lacking in their ability to subscribe to moral systems.