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Is there god or not?, always the question. For those that post on these boards there is no god as "known" through human experience and documented for the most part by that human study "religion".
It is important to state HUMAN experience.
I would contend that past human experience defined to themselves incorrectly and incompletely has lead to the "god" idea that has been so destructive to humankind.

Each of us has a "self" which one might describe as the totality of our attributes--taken together as "this is me" or "this is what I am".
What happens when one no longer "believes" in the reality of this self? When one no longer defines what one is by what one has learned or known or where one is from or by sex or a host of other attributes?
This self is not "real", as it is a product of our experiences/genes/information/
This is our "separation" from others---our "differences"
I would contend that those in the past who have claimed "divineness" have had a small taste of living "free" of this self.
That "separation" is diminshed between the "I" and all other things.
I would further contend that their experiences were incomplete as was their knowledge, and they defined this experience by either "I am god" or "god" outside me has spoken to me"
Their "ego" was mixed in the experience as the "self" was not completely "gone" or "past"
These "prophets" and "saviours" have been a burden on humankind by relating there incomplete experiences to others.

As an aside, many here discuss the ideas of "miracles" and their "realness" or not. Most here of course do not
"believe" in any such gibberish.
I wonder though what the human being is capable of that has freed themselves of the "separation" of this "supposed self"?
Science now knows the greatest power is not the "biggest" but is contained in the "smallest" atom, and are able to harness that energy ---in useful and destuctive ways.
What then is the human capable of?
I would also state that in my opinion anyone witnessing a so called "miracle" would not benefit in the least, as they themselves are unchanged. No one would be "saved".

Be seeing you...