AJ113

I am researching in order to compile a top ten bible "difficulties."

Would you be kind enough to post details of your favourite one? You know, the one that "says it all," the one that gives you the most reason to dismiss the bible.

It could be a contradiction, a fallacy or just a plain old outrage.

I know that there are many to chose from, but I would appreciate it if you could limit your contribution to one in number, so make it a good one!

Thank you in advance,

Adrian

Mageth

To me, #1 would have to be, simply put, the Genesis creation myth and how it conflicts with what science now knows about origins/evolution. Since it's obviously a myth, "original sin" is out, and with it the need for redemption.

AJ113

Thanks, Mageth, anyone else?

Sarpedon

The deliberate mistranslations. Correctly translated, the book of genesis reads "the gods" whereever the religious liars write "the LORD"

Grumpy

The different genealogies for Jesus is always a favorite.

This time of year, though, I tend to reflect on Luke 12:51 (NIV) "Do you think I came to bring peace on Earth? No, I tell you, but division." Or, as Matthew 10:36 puts it, "A man's enemies will be the members of his own household." (Quoting from Micah 7:6.) Luke 14:26 adds, "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters - yes, even his own life - he cannot be my disciple."

I love how apologists disingenuously asseert that "hate" in that context means "love less." The meaning is very plain, especially when taken with the end of Luke chapter 9, which says that believers are not supposed to even say goodbye before leaving their families.

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cloudyphiz

numbers 5:11-39

i understand that they didn't have DNA tests back then, but you'd think they could have done better than this.

-gary

Amos

The problem here is that our very own ego must be annihilated and this includes those we love the most. It just is not good enough to "surrender all" because the very will to surrender must itself be surrendered and so there cannot be any time to say goodbye because 'the believer' must be taken. Jn.21:18b is clear on this "you will stretch out your hands and another will tie you fast and carry you off against your will."

But you are correct Grumpy in that Christmas should never be a time of merrymaking because it is after all the day on which evening did not follow the night to make it a two day event.

Amos

The Lord God is second cause and the plural of Lord God is indicated by "male and female he created them" (plural). Each Lord God has its own serpent, woman, and Adam. From this comes our personal Adamic nature, perpetual virginity and natural inclinations.

Amos

Original sin is the formation of the conscious mind within each human being. It is a blank slate and is needed to preselect between good and evil for the purpose of adaptation. The 'good' is tied down into the subconscious mind where it will affect our Lord God identity which in turn can/will change our God identity wherein we are the manifestation of God on earth. Gen.1,2 and 3 are pure creation accounts that show how evolution works.

In Revelation Jesus said: I am the alpha and the omega. The alpha is what is given to us a birth and whatever we add behind the alpha will be what is retained to become part of the alpha for the next generation.

Gracchus

KJV 2 Samuel 24:1 And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.
2 For the king said to Joab the captain of the host, which was with him, Go now through all the tribes of Israel, from Dan even to Beersheba, and number ye the people, that I may know the number of the people.
3 And Joab said unto the king, Now the LORD thy God add unto the people, how many soever they be, an hundredfold, and that the eyes of my lord the king may see it: but why doth my lord the king delight in this thing?


KJV 1 Chronicles 21:1 And SATAN stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.
2 And David said to Joab and to the rulers of the people, Go, number Israel from Beersheba even to Dan; and bring the number of them to me, that I may know it.
3 And Joab answered, The LORD make his people an hundred times so many more as they be: but, my lord the king, are they not all my lord's servants? why then doth my lord require this thing? why will he be a cause of trespass to Israel?

WHO?

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