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HelenM · 07-30-2002, 05:31 AM

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Originally posted by David Mathews:
David: That sort of behavior on your part is odd.

Do you think I concern myself for even 1/10 of a second with what you think is "odd", David?

It would be rather foolish of me to be concerned over that, don't you think?

love
Helen

[ July 30, 2002: Message edited by: HelenSL ]

David Mathews · 07-30-2002, 05:35 AM

Hello Helen,

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I have studied the Bible and theology more than many Christians, I expect. I probably have more resources to do so than many lay Christians. Technically I'm not a theologian, no - but I fail to see the relevance of the question...would you enlighten me please?

David: Have you studied the Bible, Helen? You seem to be confused about the simplest things, for example belief in God & love for God. You also expressed some doubt about the meaning of the word "gospel."

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I think you knew what I was looking for but I found it on that other site. I'm sure the C of C holds to one of the explanations of how the thief was saved, that are on that Catholic web page.

David: Perhaps it does. I am glad that you found the answers that you were looking for.

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I am unique as is every human being - but, I am not unique in my approach to guilt - not at all, David. It is very wrong to endenger false guilt in people. Pressing them to do unnecessary things and telling them that their child will not be saved unless they do, will produce false guilt in them if their child dies before they do the unnecessary things and it is not true.

David: If you have an objection to the teachings of the Roman Catholic church you should contact it.

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Tess of the D'Urberville's (sp?) depicts well the agony of a young woman who is not allowed to bury her child in the churchyard - well, I forgot exactly why. I think they wouldn't baptize the child because the baby was illegitimate, then they would not let an unbaptized baby be buried in the churchyard. All very shaming and unnecessary, imo. But then Thomas Hardy clearly would have fit in well here with his views of God, organized religion, clergy...

David: Interesting literary reference.

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I will also add this, though - if I'm not honest then you can't trust my answer anyway so why ask?

David: You can learn a lot from the manner in which a person answers a question whether the person is honest or dishonest.

Love,

David Mathews

David Mathews · 07-30-2002, 05:41 AM

Hello Helen,

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Do you think I concern myself for even 1/10 of a second with what you think is "odd", David?

It would be rather foolish of me to be concerned over that, don't you think?

David: I suspect that you spent considerably more than 1/10th of a second concerned about my opinion of your odd behavior.

Anyhow, Helen, given the mundane quality of your daily activities, why do you bother to update your home page daily?

I mean, do you really think that people are concerned about whether it rained or not where you live?

Love,

David Mathews

HelenM · 07-30-2002, 05:53 AM

Originally posted by David Mathews:
David: I suspect that you spent considerably more than 1/10th of a second concerned about my opinion of your odd behavior.

You may suspect whatever you wish

Anyhow, Helen, given the mundane quality of your daily activities, why do you bother to update your home page daily?

I mean, do you really think that people are concerned about whether it rained or not where you live?

Some people are. Perhaps you are not. You are free to have your own opinion about it, of course

love
Helen

David Mathews · 07-30-2002, 05:57 AM

Hello Helen,

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7/21/02 Update

I forgot to update this before church today...oops

I noticed the above statement from your daily journal and must observe that it is your practice to list your day's activities before you do them.

That is a remarkable custom, Helen. You are an unusual person, Helen ...

Love,

David Mathews

HelenM · 07-30-2002, 05:58 AM

[b]Originally posted by David Mathews:

David: Have you studied the Bible, Helen? You seem to be confused about the simplest things, for example belief in God & love for God. You also expressed some doubt about the meaning of the word "gospel."

Appearances can be deceiving, David

.

Perhaps you are not adept at discerning what I am confused about and what I have studied

David: Perhaps it does. I am glad that you found the answers that you were looking for.

Me too. Thank you. The internet is a very helpful resource for many things, I have found.

David: If you have an objection to the teachings of the Roman Catholic church you should contact it.

I believe that they would not be interested in my opinion of their teachings and therefore it would be a waste of my time contacting them and sharing any ways in which I disagree with them.

David: Interesting literary reference. [Tess of the D'Urbervilles]

Thank you.

David: You can learn a lot from the manner in which a person answers a question whether the person is honest or dishonest.

I agree!

love
Helen

David Mathews · 07-30-2002, 06:02 AM

Hello Helen,

I have a question for you. In your journal you report:

"Yesterday we went to the Aquarium and Natural History museum ..."

and ...

"7/23/02 Update

We did go to the pool yesterday since it was hot and humid and cloudy but stayed dry (except for a very very little bit of light rain). I didn't go in; I read while they swam.

Today we're planning to go to the Science Museum again since last time we went, we didn't get to see everything we wanted to."

Would you be so kind as to tell me the name of the Aquarium, the Natural History and the Science museums that you visited?

Love,

David Mathews

HelenM · 07-30-2002, 06:22 AM

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Originally posted by David Mathews:
Would you be so kind as to tell me the name of the Aquarium, the Natural History and the Science museums that you visited?

David I have no idea why you want me to tell you this

Would you be so kind as to tell me why you want me to tell you the exact names?

love
Helen

David Mathews · 07-30-2002, 07:19 AM

Hello Helen,

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Would you be so kind as to tell me why you want me to tell you the exact names?

Because I love musuems of aquariums.

Hello Helen,

The name of the aquarium is the Shedd Aquarium, the name of the natural history museum is the The Field Musuem, and the Science and Industry musuem is known as The Musuem of Science and Industry.

You also mentioned going to a zoo, I am going to guess that the zoo is the Brookfield zoo.

Am I correct?

Love,

David Mathews

HelenM · 07-30-2002, 07:28 AM

True, although we could have gone to Lincoln Park Zoo.

When I lived downtown that would have been easier to get to.

Brookfield has great flowers and is more spacious. But Lincoln Park Zoo is an excellent zoo also.

love
Helen

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07-30-2002, 05:53 AM	#74
HelenM Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Ill Posts: 6,577	Originally posted by David Mathews: David: I suspect that you spent considerably more than 1/10th of a second concerned about my opinion of your odd behavior. You may suspect whatever you wish Anyhow, Helen, given the mundane quality of your daily activities, why do you bother to update your home page daily? I mean, do you really think that people are concerned about whether it rained or not where you live? Some people are. Perhaps you are not. You are free to have your own opinion about it, of course love Helen

07-30-2002, 05:58 AM	#76
HelenM Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Ill Posts: 6,577	[b]Originally posted by David Mathews: David: Have you studied the Bible, Helen? You seem to be confused about the simplest things, for example belief in God & love for God. You also expressed some doubt about the meaning of the word "gospel." Appearances can be deceiving, David . Perhaps you are not adept at discerning what I am confused about and what I have studied David: Perhaps it does. I am glad that you found the answers that you were looking for. Me too. Thank you. The internet is a very helpful resource for many things, I have found. David: If you have an objection to the teachings of the Roman Catholic church you should contact it. I believe that they would not be interested in my opinion of their teachings and therefore it would be a waste of my time contacting them and sharing any ways in which I disagree with them. David: Interesting literary reference. [Tess of the D'Urbervilles] Thank you. David: You can learn a lot from the manner in which a person answers a question whether the person is honest or dishonest. I agree! love Helen

07-30-2002, 06:02 AM	#77
David Mathews Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: st. petersburg Posts: 622	Hello Helen, I have a question for you. In your journal you report: "Yesterday we went to the Aquarium and Natural History museum ..." and ... "7/23/02 Update We did go to the pool yesterday since it was hot and humid and cloudy but stayed dry (except for a very very little bit of light rain). I didn't go in; I read while they swam. Today we're planning to go to the Science Museum again since last time we went, we didn't get to see everything we wanted to." Would you be so kind as to tell me the name of the Aquarium, the Natural History and the Science museums that you visited? Love, David Mathews

07-30-2002, 07:28 AM	#80
HelenM Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Ill Posts: 6,577	True, although we could have gone to Lincoln Park Zoo. When I lived downtown that would have been easier to get to. Brookfield has great flowers and is more spacious. But Lincoln Park Zoo is an excellent zoo also. love Helen

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