echidna

I can't recall which comedian observed that they still sterilise the arm before administering the lethal injection.

gilly54

This is a hard one. Anti-choice doctors in this country refuse to do abortions for women. They say they refuse because it is against their morals, but aren't they also making the judgment that the woman is immoral because she seeks an abortion?

I understand that a doctor is bound to treat someone in physical distress, but I do have a problem with Dr. Aziz not immediately calling the police while he was treating "the most wanted man on earth". I think this may have been taking patient/doctor confidentiality a bit too far, knowing that your patient is responsible for inciting and planning the killing thousands of innocent people.

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echidna

Actually I’d say abortion was a fair case for a vote-of-conscience. Basically it comes down to one’s personal views on the personhood of the baby / embryo, foetus, gamete / etc etc. Should one associate personhood at any of these stages, then the baby / embryo, foetus, gamete / etc etc should be considered at the same time as the mother.

While I support pro-choice, I’m agnostic to an extent over the allocation of personhood, so I would permit a vote of conscience on this. It seems inappropriate to request someone to abort an entity which they consider (rightly or wrongly) a human being.

Daisy

You guys seem to be unaware that Osama bin Laden is a hero, a near saint, to many in those parts.

Would an American doctor refuse to treat Kissinger just because he orchestrated deaths in Thailand and Cambodia? Or Bush Sr. because of the 4,000 in Panama?

The deaths in 9/11 are less than 4,000. Is the action more or less terrible?

Oxymoron

Yes they do! And they have even used them to resuscitate (sp?) prisoners who have attempted suicide in their cell on the big day <img src="confused.gif" border="0">