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wildernesse · 11-22-2002, 04:43 PM

Lucky, lucky, lucky us!

We have some interesting prefiled House Bills awaiting us for the upcoming State Assembly. Let's take HB1 (yes, number 1!). Filed by Franklin of Marietta, it <a href="http://www2.state.ga.us/legis/2003_04/hprefile.htm" target="_blank">H.B. 1</a>:

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A BILL to amend Article 6 of Chapter 5 of Title 16 of the Official Code of Georgia Annotated, relating to feticide, so as to define certain terms; to provide that any person seeking to have an abortion performed shall first file a petition in the superior court; to provide that the court shall appoint a guardian ad litem; to provide for a jury trial; to provide that the court shall balance the rights of the fetus against the rights of the person seeking to have an abortion performed; and for other purposes.

Yes, you read that correctly! Any woman wishing to have an abortion at any stage of pregnancy must have a jury's approval! How lovely.

Ahh, the vision of dragging women who've had miscarriages through the legal system to be sure they've not had an illegal abortion. What, that's not a logical outcome?

Well, how about this one--a mentally-handicapped child explaining her rape to a jury.

Let's figure out how a mentally-handicapped teenager can give <a href="http://www2.state.ga.us/legis/2003_04/hprefile.htm" target="_blank">informed consent</a> before she can have an abortion (H.B. 23 by Walker of the 71st district). We wouldn't want to perpetrate an offense against health and morals, would we!?

Of course, in addition to the fetus's rights it also has a "right to know" who it's father is! <a href="http://www2.state.ga.us/legis/2003_04/hprefile.htm" target="_blank">H.B. 18</a> by Bridges of Cleveland. But only if the mother is unmarried.

Heads up, Georgians! Call your newly (re-)elected representative and tell them what you think.

--tibac

[ November 22, 2002: Message edited by: wildernesse ]

yahwehyadayada · 11-22-2002, 07:22 PM

I think that's a hoax. I didn't see anything about it on NARAL'S website. And I think HB1 is really a bill to exempt certain items from sales tax for a limited period of time. I'll have a hunt around & see if I can't find a link.

Philosoft · 11-22-2002, 07:24 PM

They're not going to get away with nebulous language like "rights of the fetus." If they leave that language, it's going to be up to the courts to decide what those rights are.

"Hello, US census. How many people in your household, including unborn fetuses?"

yahwehyadayada · 11-22-2002, 07:26 PM

Found it--<a href="http://www.ganet.org/services/newleg/legsearch.cgi?year=2001&bill=HB1" target="_blank">HB1</a>

Krieger · 11-22-2002, 07:38 PM

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Originally posted by yahwehyadayada:
Found it--<a href="http://www.ganet.org/services/newleg/legsearch.cgi?year=2001&bill=HB1" target="_blank">HB1</a>

Interesting.

RufusAtticus · 11-22-2002, 08:24 PM

yahwehyadayada,

Wildy is refering to bills which will be introduced into the Georgia Legislature in the 2003 session. Her information comes from the prefile information filed with the clerk of the house.

BTW, This is the text of the NARAL email that allerted Wildy to the future bill.

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Anti-choice crusaders recently launched an egregious attack against women's rights. Please help NARAL alert pro-choice Americans by forwarding this email to your friends.

On Friday, November 15, anti-choice legislators in Georgia's House prefiled an unconstitutional bill (HB 1) that would treat women who exercise their right to choose as "executioners."

Women seeking abortion in Georgia would have to obtain a "death warrant" and go to trial against a court-appointed guardian for the fetus. A jury would decide whether she should be forced to continue the pregnancy. Doctors who perform an abortion without a "death warrant" could be imprisoned for up to 5 years.

This is an egregious violation of women's rights, which you probably won't read about in the newspaper or hear about on TV. These state legislative attacks on choice are typically under the radar, and pro-choice Americans don't have a chance to speak out against them.

NARAL needs you to take action today. This is the first of a new wave of assaults on reproductive rights we can expect to see nationwide. Emboldened by this month's elections, anti-choice forces are pursuing an aggressive agenda.

1. Forward this alert to 5 friends so they know just how serious anti-choice lawmakers are about ending legal abortion. Please ask your friends to sign up for NARAL's Choice Action Network so that we can expose anti-choice legislators' real agenda.

2. To get involved with Georgia NARAL's Legislative Initiative, call 404-875-6338.

[ November 22, 2002: Message edited by: RufusAtticus ]

Toto · 11-22-2002, 08:25 PM

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Originally posted by yahwehyadayada:
Found it--<a href="http://www.ganet.org/services/newleg/legsearch.cgi?year=2001&bill=HB1" target="_blank">HB1</a>

That's HB 1 of the year 2001. wildernesse cited HB1 of the year 2002.

RufusAtticus · 11-22-2002, 08:35 PM

Actually she cited house bill 1 of 2003.

wildernesse · 11-22-2002, 09:00 PM

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Originally posted by yahwehyadayada:
I think that's a hoax. I didn't see anything about it on NARAL'S website. And I think HB1 is really a bill to exempt certain items from sales tax for a limited period of time. I'll have a hunt around & see if I can't find a link.

It would certainly be a poor hoax, and there would have to be a lot of people in on it--including NARAL and the webmaster for the Georgia State Assembly.

I received this info from a NARAL action alert, and my links in the OP are to the Georgia State Assembly web site (or did you not see them in the OP?). These are prefiled bills for the upcoming term (2003) for the Georgia House. I'm sorry if that wasn't clear from the original post.

I hope that I don't have the reputation of posting hoaxes and urban legends on infidels.

--tibac

yahwehyadayada · 11-22-2002, 09:58 PM

Wildernesse, please accept my apology. I don't think you have a reputation of posting hoaxes, & I'm sure noone else does either.
I was madly searching some other sites for info about this, & I was so upset that I did overlook the links in your OP. I get ahead of myself when I'm upset.

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11-22-2002, 07:22 PM	#2
yahwehyadayada Regular Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: WI Posts: 290	I think that's a hoax. I didn't see anything about it on NARAL'S website. And I think HB1 is really a bill to exempt certain items from sales tax for a limited period of time. I'll have a hunt around & see if I can't find a link.

11-22-2002, 07:24 PM	#3
Philosoft Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Southeast of disorder Posts: 6,829	They're not going to get away with nebulous language like "rights of the fetus." If they leave that language, it's going to be up to the courts to decide what those rights are. "Hello, US census. How many people in your household, including unborn fetuses?"

11-22-2002, 07:26 PM	#4
yahwehyadayada Regular Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: WI Posts: 290	Found it--<a href="http://www.ganet.org/services/newleg/legsearch.cgi?year=2001&bill=HB1" target="_blank">HB1</a>

11-22-2002, 08:35 PM	#8
RufusAtticus Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NCSU Posts: 5,853	Actually she cited house bill 1 of 2003.

11-22-2002, 09:58 PM	#10
yahwehyadayada Regular Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: WI Posts: 290	Wildernesse, please accept my apology. I don't think you have a reputation of posting hoaxes, & I'm sure noone else does either. I was madly searching some other sites for info about this, & I was so upset that I did overlook the links in your OP. I get ahead of myself when I'm upset.

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