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AbbyNormal · 11-25-2002, 11:48 AM

Greetings.
Not sure if this is the right forum, but here goes:
Can anyone tell me about CCC: their thoughts, their experiences with them? I ask because my brother is a very active member. I have gone to their website, but find it difficult to wade through the mountains of religous propaganda (including such favorites as Ten Steps to Effective Witnessing and What To Do If Your Child Is Homosexual...or some such silliness). My grandmother (a devout Roman Catholic) is concerned that he's involved with "a cult". I just don't like that he's being fed some of this crap. So any thoughts or insights, please throw them my way. Many thanks.

Regards,
AbbyNormal

Eudaimonist · 11-25-2002, 01:36 PM

Oh, my. CCC does seem cultish to me, in that members can become completely absorbed into their beliefs and activities. But they aren't a cult in the same way that Scientology is a cult. I'm not sure what to offer you as advice, other than to let him be and (hopefully) grow out of it.

simian · 11-25-2002, 01:44 PM

My experience with the CCC is that they tend to be dyed in the wool type of fundies. Not at all friendly to Catholic beliefs (hint: many probably feel the pope is the antichrist - not that you will find this in their official writings). But about all I know about them is that they are fundies.

Simian

Toto · 11-25-2002, 01:48 PM

I think it is a cult comparable to Scientology, although perhaps not quite as lucrative. Bill Bright gives you 4 easy steps to becoming a saved Christian and a Republican operative. L. Ron Hubbard gives you the "technology" to greater success.

I have read that CCC has more paid operatives than any other campus-based organization by a factor of about a thousand, but I don't have the source.

AbbyNormal · 11-25-2002, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eudaimonist:
I'm not sure what to offer you as advice, other than to let him be and (hopefully) grow out of it.

That has been my approach. It really seems like a phase to me more than anything else. He came upon them while having difficulty making friends at college and finding people that weren't only interested in drinking and drugs, etc. It's a support group, really. I'm glad he has been able to find a network of people he can relate to and have fun with.....just wish all this other crap didn't have to come along with it.

Quote:

Originally posted by simian:
Not at all friendly to Catholic beliefs (hint: many probably feel the pope is the antichrist - not that you will find this in their official writings).

That sounds about right, based on what I have heard from him. It makes family gatherings occasionally interesting when he and my (Catholic) grandmother start "debating".

Regards,
AbbyNormal

xeren · 11-25-2002, 01:56 PM

I once engaged in a debate with a bunch of them at a Kampus Krusade for Khrist event.

I got the feeling that the were just a little more hard-core into Christianity than most other Christians, and they came off a little bit superior because of it.

It's basically a more tight-nit group of Jebus-lovers who continually reinforce each other's beliefs, you have nothing more to worry about than your brother becoming more immersed in Jebus than ever( if that doesn't bother you)

[ November 25, 2002: Message edited by: xeren ]

I ate Pascal's Wafer · 11-25-2002, 03:10 PM

Actually, I haven't had much experience with them here yet. Usually the Mormons or the Victory Collegiate Ministry are the folks who seem to find me. I've also run into a few Chi Alpha people from time to time.

The one time I ran into a KKK member is when they were handing out flyers to some event. No discussion, they just handed me the flyer. It involved some "She said 'yes'" thing and was basically a sermon based on the Columbine shooting and some girl who said she was a Christian and got shot. I figured they had to be way out there to use somebody's misfortune to further their religion, and the flyer went immediately into the trash.

Anyway, that's the extent of my dealings with the KKK.

-Nick

Hubble head · 11-25-2002, 04:27 PM

So many pranks to play in college...and so few groups so deserving of a Porky's caliber prank.

[ November 25, 2002: Message edited by: science ]

beoba · 11-25-2002, 06:28 PM

They exist here, but don't do anything. Here = <a href="http://www.nwmissouri.edu" target="_blank">NWMSU</a>.

I think that specifically using the word "Crusade" says a lot about their thoughts of the rest of the world.

*shudder

Abacus · 11-25-2002, 07:03 PM

What if there was an organization called the Campus Jihad for Allah? I bet they'd all be locked up in an instant.

11-25-2002, 11:48 AM	#1
AbbyNormal Regular Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Flagstaff, AZ, USA Posts: 152	Campus Crusade for Christ Greetings. Not sure if this is the right forum, but here goes: Can anyone tell me about CCC: their thoughts, their experiences with them? I ask because my brother is a very active member. I have gone to their website, but find it difficult to wade through the mountains of religous propaganda (including such favorites as Ten Steps to Effective Witnessing and What To Do If Your Child Is Homosexual...or some such silliness). My grandmother (a devout Roman Catholic) is concerned that he's involved with "a cult". I just don't like that he's being fed some of this crap. So any thoughts or insights, please throw them my way. Many thanks. Regards, AbbyNormal

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xeren Regular Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Place Posts: 285	I once engaged in a debate with a bunch of them at a Kampus Krusade for Khrist event. I got the feeling that the were just a little more hard-core into Christianity than most other Christians, and they came off a little bit superior because of it. It's basically a more tight-nit group of Jebus-lovers who continually reinforce each other's beliefs, you have nothing more to worry about than your brother becoming more immersed in Jebus than ever( if that doesn't bother you) [ November 25, 2002: Message edited by: xeren ]</p>

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Hubble head Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Corn rows Posts: 4,570	So many pranks to play in college...and so few groups so deserving of a Porky's caliber prank. [ November 25, 2002: Message edited by: science ]</p>

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11-25-2002, 01:36 PM	#2
Eudaimonist Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Sundsvall, Sweden Posts: 3,159	Oh, my. CCC does seem cultish to me, in that members can become completely absorbed into their beliefs and activities. But they aren't a cult in the same way that Scientology is a cult. I'm not sure what to offer you as advice, other than to let him be and (hopefully) grow out of it.

11-25-2002, 01:44 PM	#3
simian Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: St. Louis, MO area Posts: 1,924	My experience with the CCC is that they tend to be dyed in the wool type of fundies. Not at all friendly to Catholic beliefs (hint: many probably feel the pope is the antichrist - not that you will find this in their official writings). But about all I know about them is that they are fundies. Simian

11-25-2002, 01:48 PM	#4
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	I think it is a cult comparable to Scientology, although perhaps not quite as lucrative. Bill Bright gives you 4 easy steps to becoming a saved Christian and a Republican operative. L. Ron Hubbard gives you the "technology" to greater success. I have read that CCC has more paid operatives than any other campus-based organization by a factor of about a thousand, but I don't have the source.

11-25-2002, 03:10 PM	#7
I ate Pascal's Wafer Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 1,460	Actually, I haven't had much experience with them here yet. Usually the Mormons or the Victory Collegiate Ministry are the folks who seem to find me. I've also run into a few Chi Alpha people from time to time. The one time I ran into a KKK member is when they were handing out flyers to some event. No discussion, they just handed me the flyer. It involved some "She said 'yes'" thing and was basically a sermon based on the Columbine shooting and some girl who said she was a Christian and got shot. I figured they had to be way out there to use somebody's misfortune to further their religion, and the flyer went immediately into the trash. Anyway, that's the extent of my dealings with the KKK. -Nick

11-25-2002, 06:28 PM	#9
beoba Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Boston Posts: 699	They exist here, but don't do anything. Here = <a href="http://www.nwmissouri.edu" target="_blank">NWMSU</a>. I think that specifically using the word "Crusade" says a lot about their thoughts of the rest of the world. *shudder

11-25-2002, 07:03 PM	#10
Abacus Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Dakota Posts: 2,214	What if there was an organization called the Campus Jihad for Allah? I bet they'd all be locked up in an instant.

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