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Toto · 05-21-2002, 06:07 PM

The Dalai Lama is another one who is not strictly speaking a theist.

never been there · 05-21-2002, 07:06 PM

Ujjal Dosanjh, former premier of British Columbia
<a href="http://www.gov.mb.ca/apc/bios/bcprem.html" target="_blank">bio of U.D.</a>
a brave enemy of fundamentalism in his own faith.

My Mother-in-law. Not perfect, just forgiving.

Bach, for the music. <img src="graemlins/notworthy.gif" border="0" alt="[Not Worthy]" />

Egoinos · 05-22-2002, 04:35 AM

I'll second Raymond Brown - assuming you're speaking of the Catholic guy who wrote "The Death of the Messiah" and a massive commentary on the Gospel of John. He's my favourite scholar.
Thomas Aquinas has to have a mention.
I don't know whether John Stuart Mill was a theist (probably so, considering the time in which he lived) but if he was, then he definitely goes on the list.
And a theologian you've probably never heard of called David Lyall, who's the Principal of my faculty and who I admire as a person, for his integrity.

--Egoinos--

Celsus · 05-22-2002, 05:12 AM

Leo Tolstoy

David Bowden · 05-22-2002, 07:08 AM

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Originally posted by joejoejoe:
<strong>Leo Tolstoy</strong>

[ Darnit - you beat me to him!

]

John F. Haught - Christian philosopher of science and relentless debunker of IC/ID. Espouses a Teilhardian/Whiteheadish notion of an evolving God and tries to integrate it w/Christian faith. I admire him for trying, anyway.

Tom Paine, Thomas Jefferson, Voltaire, George Washington and others of excellent ability and admirable legacy who were deists (are deists considered "theists" or "nontheists" in this thread?)

Mortimer J. Adler

Marcus Aurelius

John Milton

Isaac Newton

Hans Kung, Catholic theologian

Jesus - if the man really existed and if he espoused the radical, generous humanism that Christian liberals claim he did, and if he had no delusions of grandeur.

-Wanderer

nescio · 05-22-2002, 01:30 PM

Those Trappist Monks in Belgium. They make good beer. Also Dom Perignon and any other monks/nuns that contributed to the art of brewing.

Laera · 05-22-2002, 03:03 PM

I don't know if anyone's heard of her, but Rev. Constance (Connie) Parvey is an amazing Christian woman. (she was also my Lutheran Chaplain at MIT, and a representative for some years in the World Council of Churches in Geneva)

I admire her most for her personal approach to belief and her willingness to never stop learning from others - be they her more famous acquaintances like Bishop Spong, or just us students trying to answer each others questions.

I often wonder these days if she isn't more of a deist than a Christian, but I'd never ask.

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Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	The Dalai Lama is another one who is not strictly speaking a theist.

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never been there Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB Posts: 2,144	Ujjal Dosanjh, former premier of British Columbia <a href="http://www.gov.mb.ca/apc/bios/bcprem.html" target="_blank">bio of U.D.</a> a brave enemy of fundamentalism in his own faith. My Mother-in-law. Not perfect, just forgiving. Bach, for the music. <img src="graemlins/notworthy.gif" border="0" alt="[Not Worthy]" />

05-22-2002, 04:35 AM	#23
Egoinos Regular Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 423	I'll second Raymond Brown - assuming you're speaking of the Catholic guy who wrote "The Death of the Messiah" and a massive commentary on the Gospel of John. He's my favourite scholar. Thomas Aquinas has to have a mention. I don't know whether John Stuart Mill was a theist (probably so, considering the time in which he lived) but if he was, then he definitely goes on the list. And a theologian you've probably never heard of called David Lyall, who's the Principal of my faculty and who I admire as a person, for his integrity. --Egoinos--

05-22-2002, 05:12 AM	#24
Celsus Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Singapore Posts: 2,875	Leo Tolstoy

05-22-2002, 01:30 PM	#26
nescio Regular Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Brooklyn-NYC-USA Posts: 353	Those Trappist Monks in Belgium. They make good beer. Also Dom Perignon and any other monks/nuns that contributed to the art of brewing.

05-22-2002, 03:03 PM	#27
Laera Regular Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 160	I don't know if anyone's heard of her, but Rev. Constance (Connie) Parvey is an amazing Christian woman. (she was also my Lutheran Chaplain at MIT, and a representative for some years in the World Council of Churches in Geneva) I admire her most for her personal approach to belief and her willingness to never stop learning from others - be they her more famous acquaintances like Bishop Spong, or just us students trying to answer each others questions. I often wonder these days if she isn't more of a deist than a Christian, but I'd never ask.

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