FoE

My Dad told me when i was a kid that Jesus did not in fact marry Mary, he just screwed her on the side. Also the Pope was nailing Mother Teresa, and Smurfette was actually a rotating position assumed by all the Smurfs once every 100 days. All the Smurfs were not only gay, they were tranvestites.

My Dad never lies, end of story.

lunachick

Ronin and sighhswolf: Thanks for the information. To me, at least, Jesus marrying (or living with) MM sounds more reasonable than a virginal Christ.

Gemma Therese: LOL!!! Nice to see you jump in here to defend your saviour's 'honour'.
But I believe that if he lived till 33 (or indeed beyond), and he was as passionate a man as accounts claim, and he loved MM as much as is claimed, then I believe she would've given him a boner from hell, baby.
I'm certain he would've have wanted to make love with her. This is not a dirty thing, GT, they were not being slaves to their sex drives. Their sexual union would have been a loving and intimate act between two loving people. In fact, how dare your religion sully intimacy the way it has over the centuries. Only religion makes sex yukky. Damned fools!

Cheers, all.

Gemma Therese

So much for Jesus being a "good" Jew.

Ever heard of the story of the woman at the well?

You must have a narrow mind to believe a platonic relationship between a passionate man and woman cannot exist.

Gemma Therese

GunnerJ

One of the things Christians have told me is that part of the reason God became human as Jesus was to experience everything that humans did from a human perspective, so se'd know that god knew first hand what it's like to be human. (Let us put aside omniscience, for a moment.) Basically, the impression is that we'd know that God wasn't just some snob in an ivory tower telling us what's best for us without ever living like us. However, Christ supposedly taught on subjects such as sex and marriage and the morality of them. So, it stands to reason that, to these Christians, at least, Jesus would have had to of been married.

Gemma Therese

Not every human being marries / engages in sex.

A celibate is stil "fully human", as Christ was fully human.

Gemma Therese

GunnerJ

Gemma, I take it you are at least pretending to have read my post. Look at what I said more closely. I never even implied that people who are celibate are not fully human.

Now, think this through, for a second. According to this logic, God became human so he could speak with the authority of personal experiance when he gave out rules. So, if he's going to give rules on marraige and sex...

GeoTheo

I think it is humorous, that you Guys only admit Jesus was a real person when you want to put forward some odd theory that he did somthing Christians would find out of character.
Atheist:
"Well, I don't believe Jesus ever existed, but if he did I think he was a gay Hindu."

Marduk

There is no reason to believe a first century Jewish Teacher/Rabbi would not be married. There is nothing requiring anyone to be celibate in those times(unless you were an Egyptian Preist, which the Jews would have considered Pagan and done the opposite of just for spite anyway )
The wedding Jesus attended was no doubt his own, his mom was in charge which would indicate her son was involved.
A Jewish male over 20 HAD to be married, whether he was a Rabbi or not, one of the 5 duties of a Jewish father was to find his son a wife before the age of 20. I don't remember if the punishment for not marrying was stoning or being booted out of town.
All the wako anti sex stuff started much later, Paul then St. Augustine.

lunachick

Geo, I never said I didn't believe Jesus the man ever existed - I just don't believe he was the son of god. What the hell a gay hindu has to do with anything is beyond me!

But, if we were to assume that god existed and Christ was his son sent down to be born as a man and live as a man, then surely it would make sense that Christ should also love as a man, and raise children. Love and the raising of children are among the most rewarding, human, challenging and humbling experiences known to us. Why would this god-bloke deny his son knowledge of these things if indeed he wanted his son to know us so completely? Seems like complete bollocks that he was a childless, celibate person - for without these most human of states (lover, spouse, parent) he could not possibly know anything about us at all!

Mageth

I think it is humorous, that you Guys only admit Jesus was a real person when you want to put forward some odd theory that he did somthing Christians would find out of character.

How is getting married "odd" and "out of character?" Surely being married wouldn't be considered a sin...