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Old 02-07-2003, 10:31 AM   #61
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NW, is there any other evidence, besides the bible of course, that suggests the ancient greeks had this knowledge. And if there is, does it mention why they wrote it down in this way?

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I don't think the ancient Greeks owed us any explantion but I would just conclude that if the mind of God is onmiscient it took us more than 2000 years to do the science for this (remember here that science extrapolates from omniscience).

It must be noted here that just as we were created in the image of God so did we procreate God in our image and that is how the duration in time can be explained (it means that we still have the mind of God).
 
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So, Amos, you going along with NW on this?

In regards to your post: huh??

Anyway, so the greeks didn't have a lightbulb, huh.

Lost, good luck, man. We've sufficiently hi-jacked your thread.

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I don't think the ancient Greeks owed us any explantion but I would just conclude that if the mind of God is onmiscient it took us more than 2000 years to do the science for this (remember here that science extrapolates from omniscience).

It must be noted here that just as we were created in the image of God so did we procreate God in our image and that is how the duration in time can be explained (it means that we still have the mind of God).
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if you study the classic greek myths, you will find in different words the same story as in the bible.
In the myth the ship argo and jason was after the golden fleece, which we now know as DNA, now the keel of the ship gave the instructions to the helm, to navigate its way, this is important.
Now when jason went ashore he found the golden fleece and was healed.

Eta carina is the keel of the argo navis constellation, by coincidence again.

Vela is the sail of the argo.
so eta carinae is the argo of the greek myth, do you see it?

its giving instructions in the form of DNA and is heading towards the earth at over a million miles per hour, now i didnt say this, the scientists of the various projects did, but it all fits the myth.


Zues riding a white horse hurling thunderbolts at the earth, given by the cyclops the one eyed beasts. After thore struck his anvil with a hammer and created the bolts.

Now Eq pegasi 51 is the star pegasus,

the lightning bolts are enlightenment and healing ,

travelling in wves as all photons do.

now if you want proof that the bible is a science book read the following scriptures




Exd 29:24 And thou shalt put all in the hands of Aaron, and in the hands of his sons; and shalt wave them [for] a wave offering before the LORD.

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Exd 29:26 And thou shalt take the breast of the ram of Aaron's consecration, and wave it [for] a wave offering before the LORD: and it shall be thy part.

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Exd 29:27 And thou shalt sanctify the breast of the wave offering, and the shoulder of the heave offering, which is waved, and which is heaved up, of the ram of the consecration, [even] of [that] which [is] for Aaron, and of [that] which is for his sons:

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Lev 7:30 His own hands shall bring the offerings of the LORD made by fire, the fat with the breast, it shall he bring, that the breast may be waved [for] a wave offering before the LORD.

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Lev 7:34 For the wave breast and the heave shoulder have I taken of the children of Israel from off the sacrifices of their peace offerings, and have given them unto Aaron the priest and unto his sons by a statute for ever from among the children of Israel.

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Lev 8:27 And he put all upon Aaron's hands, and upon his sons' hands, and waved them [for] a wave offering before the LORD.

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Lev 8:29 And Moses took the breast, and waved it [for] a wave offering before the LORD: [for] of the ram of consecration it was Moses' part; as the LORD commanded Moses.

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Lev 9:21 And the breasts and the right shoulder Aaron waved [for] a wave offering before the LORD; as Moses commanded.

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Lev 10:14 And the wave breast and heave shoulder shall ye eat in a clean place; thou, and thy sons, and thy daughters with thee: for [they be] thy due, and thy sons' due, [which] are given out of the sacrifices of peace offerings of the children of Israel.

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Lev 10:15 The heave shoulder and the wave breast shall they bring with the offerings made by fire of the fat, to wave [it for] a wave offering before the LORD; and it shall be thine, and thy sons' with thee, by a statute for ever; as the LORD hath commanded.

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Lev 14:12 And the priest shall take one he lamb, and offer him for a trespass offering, and the log of oil, and wave them [for] a wave offering before the LORD:

do you see the wave offering, you and it collapse waves by watching.
now isnt it fitting that the mythologial character jesus sais
" whati say to all, i say WATCH"

watch and collapse the wave to a dot and youve got mail.


its meditation

proof

wo to you scribes and pharisees for you shut up the kingdom of god because you do not go inyourself, and you dont suffer (teach)
the people to go in.



The greeks named all the nine planets including the plutos moon charon in the mythology, now isnt that amazing, and the furies out side of pluto, well its the kupiter belt or asteroid belt, so how did they know all this

4555

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Holy Cow! It's all become so clear now! I typed '4555' into google and I have seen the truth!

4555 was also a John Deere tractor!

It's astounding how accurate the bible is!

It appears the ancient peoples didn't use a yoke and oxen, but John Deere model 4555 tractors! Doubtless we have tons of archeologic evidence to verify this...

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Holy Cow! It's all become so clear now! I typed '4555' into google and I have seen the truth!

4555 was also a John Deere tractor!

It's astounding how accurate the bible is!

It appears the ancient peoples didn't use a yoke and oxen, but John Deere model 4555 tractors! Doubtless we have tons of archeologic evidence to verify this...

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you are a poor researcher


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NightWatchman, proof? You use that word often.

I ask again. Outside of mythological books, including the bible, what proof is there that the greeks had this knowledge?

Come on, they knew THAT much and didn't have the Internet? I mean hell, even Al Gore could invent the Internet.

You are interpreting the bible, and any other book, all of which can be construed to mean a bazillion things if you try hard enough, to fit science as it is today. 500 years from now is it going to fit then too? What if we've got some major theories wrong?

And, did they receive all of this knowledge divinely? Or will we uncover some ancient vessels and labs that were used for testing purposes? Of course, I'd imagine that would be the Ark...

By the way, what do your theories say about the bible's account of a mass flood?

Copy/paste away...

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So, Amos, you going along with NW on this?

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I admire NW for his insight and research and I don't even try to follow his posts. NW may not be exactly right and his position must be welcomed as a different perspective for you to ponder but not remember in detail. If I was more confident in physics I would have argued something like that a long time ago because I know it's there.
 
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The flood is allegory and each one of us must/should be an ark builder to keep us aflaot during our menopause which is the time when we can become eternal (meno is Greek for "I remain" as in "I become eternal.)"
 
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NightWatchman, proof? You use that word often.

I ask again. Outside of mythological books, including the bible, what proof is there that the greeks had this knowledge?

Come on, they knew THAT much and didn't have the Internet? I mean hell, even Al Gore could invent the Internet.

You are interpreting the bible, and any other book, all of which can be construed to mean a bazillion things if you try hard enough, to fit science as it is today. 500 years from now is it going to fit then too? What if we've got some major theories wrong?

And, did they receive all of this knowledge divinely? Or will we uncover some ancient vessels and labs that were used for testing purposes? Of course, I'd imagine that would be the Ark...

By the way, what do your theories say about the bible's account of a mass flood?

Copy/paste away...

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Its all mythology

read about zeno, pythagoris, aristotle, and all the other greek entities, The caduces that the doctors wear on their white coats is from hipprocrates the father of medicine, its two snakes going around a stick . the two snakes is the double helix dna and the stick is your spine.

Moses through down his rod and turned it into a snake.
its dna.

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.... refused slowly backs up.... checks behind himself, turns back quickly to check in front.. eases towards the door... easy.... easy... careful.... don't make any sudden moves....tuns door knob gently...opens it quietly... exits the thread.


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