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Old 02-14-2002, 09:09 PM   #31
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<strong>If I'm going to flee my country, I may as well go to the destination of choice for political exiles, London. Between Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and the U.K. (which covers most of the English speaking world except the U.S.), I've spent time in all of them, I think London is my style.

Jamacia might be a second choice, I had a room mate from there once and he gave it high marks (but also didn't go back when he graduated from college). . . maybe I can try out for the bobsledding team. India, I don't know, I'm probably more likely to die in a nuclear war there than I am in the U.S.

More realistically, I would probably move in with my relatives in either Finland or S. Korea.</strong>
Isn't Jamaica a US protectorate? And do you really want to live in S. Korea, which is just south of ... uh... North Korea. Not too far from China either.
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I might be biased, but i would suggest New Zealand as a good destination for anyone looking for a reasonably secular country.

We have no written constitution unlike the USA, but convention has meant that there has been no serious attempt to introduce religion in to schools.

If the national census, which surveys the entire population of approx 3.8-4 million, is to be trusted we are around 30-40% unreligious.

The only major issue is that we still have a ban on trading on good friday and other "major" xtian days. This law is, in fact, tabled for parliamentary debate soon, and will hopefully be changed.

Our exchange rate maybe low, but $1.00NZ-$1.20NZ buys a can of coke, and i beleive McD's etc is cheaper here(as a measure of comparison beyond exchange rate).

We have no state religion, and have a bill of right protecting freedom of religion etc.
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Isn't Jamaica a US protectorate? And do you really want to live in S. Korea, which is just south of ... uh... North Korea. Not too far from China either.</strong>
Jamaica is a former British colony, a member in good standing of the British commonwealth, and an independent country. It is not subject to the United States. S. Korea is urban, increasingly modern, not overwhelmingly Christian, and contains people who would happily provide free room and board for my family. China is improving. North Korea is likely to fall in the style of Eastern Europe, any day now.
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<strong>I might be biased, but i would suggest New Zealand as a good destination for anyone looking for a reasonably secular country.

We have no written constitution unlike the USA, but convention has meant that there has been no serious attempt to introduce religion in to schools.

If the national census, which surveys the entire population of approx 3.8-4 million, is to be trusted we are around 30-40% unreligious.

The only major issue is that we still have a ban on trading on good friday and other "major" xtian days. This law is, in fact, tabled for parliamentary debate soon, and will hopefully be changed.

Our exchange rate maybe low, but $1.00NZ-$1.20NZ buys a can of coke, and i beleive McD's etc is cheaper here(as a measure of comparison beyond exchange rate).

We have no state religion, and have a bill of right protecting freedom of religion etc.</strong>
The Kiwis score high on the secular scale, but are somewhat lacking in the urban amenities department. Christ church is a picturesque, but lets face it, terribly tame middle sized city, Wellington is dreadfully sedate (not a bad thing for a governmental center producing peace and prosperity, but not too much fun to live in), and Auckland, while the largest city in the country, where I lived for a year, is easy going but bland. How many other major cities are so sedate that you can graze sheep within the city limits?
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The Kiwis score high on the secular scale, but are somewhat lacking in the urban amenities department. Christ church is a picturesque, but lets face it, terribly tame middle sized city, Wellington is dreadfully sedate (not a bad thing for a governmental center producing peace and prosperity, but not too much fun to live in), and Auckland, while the largest city in the country, where I lived for a year, is easy going but bland. How many other major cities are so sedate that you can graze sheep within the city limits?</strong>
Heh,
At least we have more real sheep than metaphorical ones!
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Australia...

I want to bounce with the kangaroos...
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I think I would go to the UK. Because:

1. I only speak English.
2. I watched too much Doctor Who as a child
3. I like the BBC's news.
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Hands down the Netherlands. I've been dreaming of moving there for years now
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Germany, because I like the language (I'm slowly learning it), it's a beautiful country (I would prefer southern Germany in Bavaria or die Schwartzwald) and I like the attitudes there.

Italy, because it's gorgeous and I like the laid back attitude. I know this contradicts with the anal Germans, but I just like both for some reason.

Scotland, because I love the people and I really like Edinburgh. Language wouldn't be an issue either.

(edited way after the fact; of course I would prefer Bavaria or the Black Forest)

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Scotland, because I love the people and I really like Edinburgh. Language wouldn't be an issue either.
Language isn't an issue in Scotland?

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