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emphryio · 06-04-2002, 09:36 AM

SingleDad, 99percent, hinduwoman, wherever you may be, I salute you.

Faith (when correctly defined) is evil.

emphryio · 06-04-2002, 09:50 AM

<a href="http://iidb.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=21&t=000348" target="_blank">Faith is immoral</a>

I wince to read some of my writings. But I wrote as if the audience was myself. On this particular day I feel as if I should conform more (in regards to writing style) because if you don't conform society simply discards you. At that time I wrote the only way in wish I could care enough to bother.

[ June 04, 2002: Message edited by: emphryio ]

ShottleBop · 06-04-2002, 09:59 AM

Who is Faith, and why are you impugning her in this forum?

WJ · 06-04-2002, 10:09 AM

Indeed! Faith is not logically possible. Therefore, belief does not exist.

The apeman

Ron Singh · 06-04-2002, 05:53 PM

You assume the existence of anything outside of your mind without any empirical, provable evidence. How dare you faithful, and therefor dangerous immoral people!

~You friendly neighborhood 15yr old Sikh

Philosoft · 06-04-2002, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sikh:
You assume the existence of anything outside of your mind without any empirical, provable evidence. How dare you faithful, and therefor dangerous immoral people!

You wish to assume nothing exists outside your mind? Go ahead, try it. See what happens. Let us know when you notice anything different.

Ether · 06-04-2002, 07:40 PM

Hmm "Faith" is not evil. Mankind on the other hand is.

Ron Singh · 06-04-2002, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Philosoft:


You wish to assume nothing exists outside your mind? Go ahead, try it. See what happens. Let us know when you notice anything different.

Are you trying to intice me to do something EVIL? scandelous! I agree with Ether.

~Your friendly neighborhood 15yr old Sikh

06-04-2002, 10:32 PM

I salute you emphryio in the name of salutation in general,

We should not define 'faith' in terms of "that which is undesirable" It is quite clear that faith can provide very real social and individual benefit. We could just as comfortably take it on faith that it,
like any human endeavor, is occasionally prone to catalyzing truly brilliantly folly.

Good (we should not neglect) does produce evil (when correctly defined). Note that Ether defines mankind in terms of �that which is evil�, a closely related equivocation.

Ether comments,
�"Faith" is not evil. Mankind on the other hand is. �

But mankind can produce some truly wonderful things. (obligatory list of happy fuzzy fun and uncontroversially good things we have produced

) We are also the ones that make (obligatory list of ways we have invented to churn flesh and steel alike in a inferno that sucks the oxygen from our very lungs and ears.

) and. Assuming for a moment a bifurcated scheme of what is and isn�t evil, - which can produce problematic ethical systems -clearly man�s nature cannot be exaustively characterized by one or the other.

Good (shall we forget?) is evil (when correctly defined!).

In the choice between good and evil there�s always a good creation science method of determining the nature of man.
(2pi-4Xpi+68pi)/[(1-2X+34)p], the answer is two, therefore

1. Good
2. Evil

We choose two, which is evil, therefore man is scientifically evil, QED.

[ June 04, 2002: Message edited by: Synaesthesia ]

h · 06-04-2002, 10:42 PM

I'm sorry, but what the fuck are we actually talking about here?

06-04-2002, 09:36 AM	#1
emphryio Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: WV Posts: 4,369	Faith is evil SingleDad, 99percent, hinduwoman, wherever you may be, I salute you. Faith (when correctly defined) is evil.

06-04-2002, 09:50 AM	#2
emphryio Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: WV Posts: 4,369	<a href="http://iidb.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=21&t=000348" target="_blank">Faith is immoral</a> I wince to read some of my writings. But I wrote as if the audience was myself. On this particular day I feel as if I should conform more (in regards to writing style) because if you don't conform society simply discards you. At that time I wrote the only way in wish I could care enough to bother. [ June 04, 2002: Message edited by: emphryio ]</p>

06-04-2002, 10:32 PM	#9
Synaesthesia Guest Posts: n/a	I salute you emphryio in the name of salutation in general, We should not define 'faith' in terms of "that which is undesirable" It is quite clear that faith can provide very real social and individual benefit. We could just as comfortably take it on faith that it, like any human endeavor, is occasionally prone to catalyzing truly brilliantly folly. Good (we should not neglect) does produce evil (when correctly defined). Note that Ether defines mankind in terms of �that which is evil�, a closely related equivocation. Ether comments, �"Faith" is not evil. Mankind on the other hand is. � But mankind can produce some truly wonderful things. (obligatory list of happy fuzzy fun and uncontroversially good things we have produced <img src="graemlins/banghead.gif" border="0" alt="[Bang Head]" /> ) We are also the ones that make (obligatory list of ways we have invented to churn flesh and steel alike in a inferno that sucks the oxygen from our very lungs and ears. ) and. Assuming for a moment a bifurcated scheme of what is and isn�t evil, - which can produce problematic ethical systems -clearly man�s nature cannot be exaustively characterized by one or the other. Good (shall we forget?) is evil (when correctly defined!). In the choice between good and evil there�s always a good creation science method of determining the nature of man. (2pi-4Xpi+68pi)/[(1-2X+34)p], the answer is two, therefore 1. Good 2. Evil We choose two, which is evil, therefore man is scientifically evil, QED. [ June 04, 2002: Message edited by: Synaesthesia ]</p>

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06-04-2002, 09:59 AM	#3
ShottleBop Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 77	Who is Faith, and why are you impugning her in this forum?

06-04-2002, 10:09 AM	#4
WJ Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 812	Indeed! Faith is not logically possible. Therefore, belief does not exist. The apeman

06-04-2002, 05:53 PM	#5
Ron Singh Regular Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 163	You assume the existence of anything outside of your mind without any empirical, provable evidence. How dare you faithful, and therefor dangerous immoral people! ~You friendly neighborhood 15yr old Sikh

06-04-2002, 07:40 PM	#7
Ether Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: United States Posts: 70	Hmm "Faith" is not evil. Mankind on the other hand is.

06-04-2002, 10:42 PM	#10
h Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: florida Posts: 17	I'm sorry, but what the fuck are we actually talking about here?

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