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B. H. Manners · 11-05-2002, 04:53 PM

Guys, let us try to keep it nice, okay?

hal9000 · 11-05-2002, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Peter Edward Faulkner:
I got my proof he exists,

and you can't disprove he doesn't exist.

Guess that puts me in the lead.

Gal 3:2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

You need to read what you wrote Peter Edward Faulkner.....and you can't disprove he doesn't exist.!!!

Really, thanks for proving our point, I think?

Peter Edward Faulkner · 11-06-2002, 09:58 AM

[ November 21, 2002: Message edited by: Peter Edward Faulkner ]

Tristan Scott · 11-06-2002, 10:28 AM

I think what you're trying to say is that it cannot be proven that god doesn't exist.

If so, I would say that is a true statement.

galiel · 11-06-2002, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Peter Edward Faulkner:
K guys, work with me on this one,

and you cannnot prove to be false that he does not exist.

Since concepts such as "proof" "proving something false" and "existence or non-existence" are tools of the logical thinking method, and since believers do not abide by the rules of logic, it is hypocritical of you to make such as statement.

I might as well say that evolution is "revealed" truth, or that atheism is a gift from God.

Philosoft · 11-06-2002, 12:28 PM

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Originally posted by Peter Edward Faulkner:
K guys, work with me on this one,

and you cannnot prove to be false that he does not exist.

Define "God" and "exist," then we'll talk about what we can or can not prove.

Peter Edward Faulkner · 11-06-2002, 02:37 PM

[ November 21, 2002: Message edited by: Peter Edward Faulkner ]

Philosoft · 11-06-2002, 03:56 PM

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Originally posted by Peter Edward Faulkner:

Just to cap off, I presume you don't realize you are a believer, though not in Jesus as the son of God, but a believer of the opposite.

What does this even mean? How does one go about believing negative existential claims in the same manner as positive claims? You are basically saying atheists go around actively believing in nothing. You're going to have to do better than catch-phrase argumentation.

galiel · 11-06-2002, 08:13 PM

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Originally posted by Peter Edward Faulkner:

Just to cap off, I presume you don't realize you are a believer, though not in Jesus as the son of God, but a believer of the opposite.

Therefore if your statement is correct on believers use ot logic , I'd say you just shot yourself in the foot.

But if your logic is correct, it only hurts if I believe it does...

Peter Edward Faulkner · 11-07-2002, 09:48 AM

[ November 21, 2002: Message edited by: Peter Edward Faulkner ]

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B. H. Manners Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,213	Guys, let us try to keep it nice, okay?

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Tristan Scott Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Southwest USA Posts: 4,093	I think what you're trying to say is that it cannot be proven that god doesn't exist. If so, I would say that is a true statement.

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