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Chip · 11-19-2002, 06:39 AM

"a finding dismissed earlier by the Monsanto scientists(25)."

Hmmm, me thinks you are confused. Appears that #25 concerns the Monsanto scientists dismissal.

Regards, Chip

Godless Dave · 11-19-2002, 09:14 AM

Both brands of milk I buy are available in BGH-free versions. All the local supermarkets carry them, and the natural foods coop I shop at carries BGH-free milk exclusively. I think it costs about 10 cents more per half gallon. I'm more concerned about what it does to the cows than what it might be doing to me.

Ernest Sparks · 11-19-2002, 09:25 AM

Gee! I think I'll get a big flass of bilk right now, and maybe have it with some gookies.

MortalWombat · 11-19-2002, 10:21 AM

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Originally posted by Chip:
<strong>"a finding dismissed earlier by the Monsanto scientists(25)."

Hmmm, me thinks you are confused. Appears that #25 concerns the Monsanto scientists dismissal.

Regards, Chip</strong>

Nope. If you would bother to check the references at the bottom of Larsen's web page, you would plainly see that reference 25 is (copied directly from Larsen's "References" section):

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25 Juskevich, Judith C. and Guyer, C. Greg. Bovine growth hormone: human food safety evaluation. Science, Vol. 249, August 24, 1990, pp. 875-84

And here is the abstract of that article, obtained from PubMed:

Quote:

Science 1990 Aug 24;249(4971):875-84
Bovine growth hormone: human food safety evaluation.
Juskevich JC, Guyer CG.

Food and Drug Administration, Center for Veterinary Medicine, Office of New Animal Drug Evaluation, Rockville, MD 20857.

Scientists in the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), after reviewing the scientific literature and evaluating studies conducted by pharmaceutical companies, have concluded that the use of recombinant bovine growth hormone (rbGH) in dairy cattle presents no increased health risk to consumers. Bovine GH is not biologically active in humans, and oral toxicity studies have demonstrated that rbGH is not orally active in rats, a species responsive to parenterally administered bGH. Recombinant bGH treatment produces an increase in the concentration of insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF-I) in cow's milk. However, oral toxicity studies have shown that bovine IGF-I lacks oral activity in rats. Additionally, the concentration of IGF-I in milk of rbGH-treated cows is within the normal physiological range found in human breast milk, and IGF-I is denatured under conditions used to process cow's milk for infant formula. On the basis of estimates of the amount of protein absorbed intact in humans and the concentration of IGF-I in cow's milk during rbGH treatment, biologically significant levels of intact IGF-I would not be absorbed.

And this is the complete quote from Larsen's article which refers to reference #25:

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Researchers at the FDA reported in 1990 that IGF-1 is not destroyed by pasteurization and that pasteurization actually increases its concentration in BST-milk. They also confirmed that undigested protein could indeed cross the intestinal wall in humans and cited tests which showed that oral ingestion of IGF-1 produced a significant increase in the growth of a group of male rats - a finding dismissed earlier by the Monsanto scientists(25). The most important aspect of these experiments is that they show that IGF-1 can indeed enter the blood stream from the intestines - at least in rats.

I'll leave it up to the alert reader to determine whether or not Larsen is being completely forthcoming in his review of the literature.

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11-19-2002, 06:39 AM	#11
Chip Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 382	"a finding dismissed earlier by the Monsanto scientists(25)." Hmmm, me thinks you are confused. Appears that #25 concerns the Monsanto scientists dismissal. Regards, Chip

11-19-2002, 09:14 AM	#12
Godless Dave Contributor Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: With 10,000 lakes who needs a coast? Posts: 10,762	Both brands of milk I buy are available in BGH-free versions. All the local supermarkets carry them, and the natural foods coop I shop at carries BGH-free milk exclusively. I think it costs about 10 cents more per half gallon. I'm more concerned about what it does to the cows than what it might be doing to me.

11-19-2002, 09:25 AM	#13
Ernest Sparks Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Portland, OR USA Posts: 1,248	Gee! I think I'll get a big flass of bilk right now, and maybe have it with some gookies.

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