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Old 07-17-2003, 08:28 AM   #11
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I actually read about a non-carnivorous T. Rex before in a creationist dinosaur book I have. (And believed for a while too, go figure, although I did think it was odd.) They claimed some fossil T. Rex teeth that were from an adult that weren't worn down as they should if it had eaten meat, or something like that. Doesn't have a source I'm sure, I forget if it had a picture. Crazy shit.
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I actually read about a non-carnivorous T. Rex before in a creationist dinosaur book I have. (And believed for a while too, go figure, although I did think it was odd.) They claimed some fossil T. Rex teeth that were from an adult that weren't worn down as they should if it had eaten meat, or something like that. Doesn't have a source I'm sure, I forget if it had a picture. Crazy shit.
That was a bulimic T Rex. The wear marks were from stomach acid brought up by it ralphing after eating.

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It must be nice to live in a fantasy world. Fossil coprolites (dung) full of animal bones show that plenty of animals were eating other animals.

Thulborn, 1991. Morphology, preservation and palaeobiological significance of dinosaur coprolites. Palaeogeography, Palaeoclimatology, Palaeoecology, 83, pp. 341-366.

Wright, K. 1996. What the dinosaurs left us. Discover Magazine (June, 1996 issue), pp. 58-65.

Coprolites and fossilized gut contents from the Smoky Hill Chalk

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I'd like to see a creationist's explanation for this fossil. (I know; thefalldidit).
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I'd like to see a creationist's explanation for this fossil. (I know; thefalldidit).
No, no, Velociraptor is gving Protoceratops' head a big hug.

"I love you, Protoceratops."
"I love you too, Velociraptor."

Further evidence that before the fall, life was all touchy-feely.

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You guys don't get it. Since there was no death before the fall, there wouldn't be any fossils of pre-fall animals. As soon as Adam and Eve got kicked out of paradise for eating a piece of fruit, the teeth of now-carnivorous animals magically became pointy. Except for baleen whales, whose teeth were only destined to become pointy during embryonic development, and are then re-absorbed before birth. As some kind of curse or something, I guess.
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You guys don't get it. Since there was no death before the fall, there wouldn't be any fossils of pre-fall animals. As soon as Adam and Eve got kicked out of paradise for eating a piece of fruit, the teeth of now-carnivorous animals magically became pointy. Except for baleen whales, whose teeth were only destined to become pointy during embryonic development, and are then re-absorbed before birth. As some kind of curse or something, I guess.
Ah yes, "The Curse" is the other explanation for everything--short human lifespans, pain, "mutations," etc.
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I've said it before, but that never stops me: it was for the dreaded and wily Jurassic Carrot that carnivorous dinosaurs were given those teeth. Twenty feet of conical, orange, prehistoric terror awaited the fool who tried to dig one up - only the dinosaurs were a match for them.
Hmm, Aren't carrots angiosperms? And angiosperms only appeared in the late Cretaceous, so therefore there were no carrots in the Jurassic.

*Learns that Creationists don't believe in the Mesozoic *

Oh, um, nevermind.....
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I'd like to see a creationist's explanation for this fossil. (I know; thefalldidit).
Obviously some fast, catastrophic event had to fossilize that to preserve dinosaurs in that position. I'm gonna dismiss nuclear winter, since that isn't fast enough. The article says a sandstorm or sand falling on the dinosaurs. Ok, since when do sandstorms cover a height of 2 meters in a matter of seconds? If sandstorms could do that, we'd see those kind of storms today, which we don't. The article also says, falling sand. Falling from what? Being covered in a large amount of mud and water actually sounds feasible to me.
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Yes indeed. These fossils are from the Gobi and were probably buried by a catastrophic event, but quite a local one. It appears that the Gobi was a desert at the time these fossils were preserved. At first it was thought that they were burried by sand storms or floods, but further investigation has shown that it was probably collapsing sand dunes, probably triggered by rain. Such an event would have the effect of covering the fossils quickly, and therefore preventing movement and at the same time preserving them from scavengers. There are several fully articulated, complete fossils in these strata. They were buried in sand.
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