Veovis

I was browsing the CAP Alert Database (run by a group of True Christians™ who screen movies for "offensive" material) for no other reason than to read their whining about evolution in movies, (I was really bored!) when I came across this little gem here:

http://www.capalert.com/capreports/dinosaur.htm

This has got to be a new low for fundy ignorance. I mean, how can the Tyrannosaurus rex, a dinosaur with serrated teeth the size of banannas not be a carnivore? May the Almighty Jack Horner have mercy on their souls!

Granted, they aren't "Creation Scientists," and this little utterance is buried within their copious database, but anyone who peddles crap like that should be severely chastized.

Seriously though, any thoughts?

Coragyps

I've said it before, but that never stops me: it was for the dreaded and wily Jurassic Carrot that carnivorous dinosaurs were given those teeth. Twenty feet of conical, orange, prehistoric terror awaited the fool who tried to dig one up - only the dinosaurs were a match for them.
I'm waiting on Kent Hovind to supply documentation before we publish, though - kind of a Darwin and Wallace deal, eh?

Mecha_Dude

So I take it they don't consider plants to be alive?

Minnesota

Do not take the "dreaded and wily Jurassic Carrot" idea too lightly. If you remember, in the movie The Thing, the substance of the alien monster was said to be closer to a carrot than anything else.

MortalWombat

I guess all those fossils with dinosaur tooth marks on them were just planted by the devil.

Roland98

Well of course those are real. They just occurred after the fall, when Man lived with dinos just outside of Eden. Actually, in Texas, I believe--haven't you seen the tracks?

gallo

What creationuts like this don't seem to realize is that they put themselves in a lose-lose situation. How does one account for obligatory carnivors, like cats. Unlike other animals, cats cannot manufacture taurine, vitamin A, and arachidic acid from vegetable food sources. They must eat other animals or food made from animal sources. The taurine comes from meat, the vitamin A from fat, and the arachidic acid from internal organs (liver especially).

So the question is, if there were no carnivores before the fall, what did cats eat? They don't eat plants and their teeth aren't suited to chew plant material. But if a creationut wants to claim that cats are different now than before the fall, then they evolved from something that was not a cat, and they are stuck with the dreaded "macroevolution."

And I've seen the tracks in Texas (Paluxy River).





[edited to correct where I actually typed "meet" for "meat".

Roland98

All explained away by degradation of the species after the Fall. Seriously.

They just claim their teeth changed, and chalk it up to "microevolution." Seriously.

gallo

Yes but, teeth from some mythical non-carnivorous cat kind would not be recognized as from a cat. Such changes are significant and not merely variation in kind. And the chanages in the basic metabolism of an animal to turn it into an obligatory carnivor are not merely degradation. Such changes would be a change to a felid "kind" from some other kind - the cat kind must have looked somewhat like a cow.

Roland98

Believe me, I understand. But "the Fall diddit" is just the answer I get for just about everything they have that's clearly unexplainable by typical "creationist" dogma. Science is thrown out the window--"so what if cats don't have the enzymes or physiology to digest plant material? They did before the Fall."

The Fall is the great escape hatch, as I see it.