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Old 04-12-2003, 08:05 AM   #31
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We do see Quebec as a nation, but we do not have anything near the level of autonomy that Taiwan enjoys.
Yeah, but its the idea, the feeling I was getting at, not the actual circumstances. Sorry for not being clearer.
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You're right, that would be stupid on a grand scale. But, they still consider themselves, if unofficially, a seperate state (much in the same way Quebec sees itself as a sovereign nation, but it is still part of Canada).
Not such a great analogy. Nationalist Quebecers see themselves as having a very seperate distinct culture that neccesitates a sovereign state on cultural grounds. They see themselves as "Quebecer," not "Canadian." Most Taiwanese I know (who may not be representative of most Taiwanese) definitely consider themselves Chinese. In most ways Taiwan functions as a quasi independant state, but many, if not most, of the Taiwanese see themselves first and foremost as Chinese. If they believe Taiwanese statehood is feasible and support it conceptually, it is because they believe the mainland isn't going to shape up any time soon. Taiwan is not only technically part of China, but I think most of its inhabitants consider themselves to be Chinese. That's significant if I'm correct about it. I could be way off base here though (I know there are also Native Taiwanese, who aren't Chinese. I don't know what their percentage of the population is, just who they are, or what they consider themselves to be).

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Guess what, the flag won.

Where's that barf smilie?
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Old 05-08-2003, 10:50 AM   #34
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This description does not match the picture:

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The flag displays the state's coat of arms and the words "In God We Trust" on a blue corner in the top left, with three red-and-white stripes to the right.
The picture has IGWT on the white stripe. If it were confined to the blue area with the state coat of arms it might be less offensive.
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The picture in this morning's AJC had the In God We Trust in the blue area in very small letters. You don't even notice it unless you're really close. The linked article has the wrong picture.
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A flag historian at UGA basically told the legislature at the last moment that their flag design was flawed. He mentioned that it was too big and probably that putting large words on it was a bad idea. Thus at the last moment the democrats (and a few republicans) passed an amendment to make the changes. It definately is an improvement. Also this amendment modified the referendum such that the 1956 flag will not be considered.
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How can they get away with the "In God We Trust" on the flag? Currency is not considered to be representative of the people but an official state flag? That has to fall under the "establishment" clause, doesn't it?
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I split the Confederacy discussion to another thread and moved it to PD -- you can find it here

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Old 05-30-2003, 08:29 AM   #39
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I am a longtime resident of Georgia.

The Georgia legislature is renowned for stupidity, and one should never underestimate how low they will go.

The state-flag issue has taken more time, ink, and energy than almost all other (real) issues combined.

As for the both-sides-read-the-same problem, clearly we should put a motto on the flag that is not only a palindrome but whose LETTERS are palindromic, i.e., read the same both ways, like o or w or m.

Perhaps WOW or MOM would do.

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Y A W E H T H E W A Y

is close...

except for the "E"s...

and except for the fact that it's NOT

...In my opinion
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