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Old 08-15-2002, 11:34 PM   #21
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Since we all know that the science world is filled with atheists, we should remind students that science—especially the evolutionary part—is controlled by atheistic thought! Obviously, all of us are influenced by our cultural system and personal beliefs. Why must scientists be singled out in the classroom for this? Oh wait, because we must learn that science is a human endeavor influenced by a variety of beliefs.

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Since we all know that the science world is filled with atheists
No it isn't.
To be honest, I doubt it's even a Majority of Athiests

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we should remind students that science—especially the evolutionary part—is controlled by atheistic thought!
Bit about science in general: See above.
Bit about Evolutionary part: 1. No it isn't, 2. And at the same time on Creationist "science" You should remind the student that all the hypothesis included are based solely on a very old book with no independant supporting evidence to be found in the world around us.

Also add that the "scientists" who research it are ALL Religious. (Christian in particular on this subject)

Y'see, what you fail to realise is two things.

1. That science isn't controlled by Athiesm.
2. That most of your objections against science become 100% true when you change Athiest to Christian, and Evolution to Creation.

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Oh, and one more thing...

It should also be added that there are literally hundreds (as an extremely low estimate) of other creation myths, each of which has about as much supporting evidence as the Judaic myth.
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Old 08-15-2002, 11:45 PM   #23
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Camaban:

If I were really a creationist, your assertions of “No it isn’t” would certainly cause me to drop all my beliefs and become enamored with evolution. Sorry for the lack of sarcastic smilies in my earlier post and in this one—I don’t use them often enough.

Also, while most formal creationists are Biblical creationists, not all of the ideas of creation are included in the Bible. Most cultures have a non-scientific explanation of how the world and humankind began.

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wildernesse: If you were a creationist, my assertions of "no it isn't" would have exactly the same effect as if I posted pages and pages of statistics, etc.

Same result, simpler solution.
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Probably on account of the anti-evolution side is louder.
Yeah, and because the pro-evolution side is busy, er, doing science.
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It should also be added that there are literally hundreds (as an extremely low estimate) of other creation myths, each of which has about as much supporting evidence as the Judaic myth.
Yes, but the Creationist Party has that one covered somewhere in their maifesto. I think it goes along the lines that the pantheistic and polytheistic and earth-spirit type of religions have the gods so bound up in the creation that it's as good as equivalent to evolution anyway, so we'll just concentrate on the REAL alternative - guess what...
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Yes, but the Creationist Party has that one covered somewhere in their maifesto. I think it goes along the lines that the pantheistic and polytheistic and earth-spirit type of religions have the gods so bound up in the creation that it's as good as equivalent to evolution anyway, so we'll just concentrate on the REAL alternative - guess what...</strong>
Other than having several gods, I wonder how they figured that with many of the religions.

I mean, how does creation become Evolution just by adding a few gods?
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sometimes just got to wonder how ignorant they are of other religions.

Although, to be fair, their target audience (for the most part) probably IS ignorant of most all other religions (besides knowing they're things created by Satan)
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<strong>wildernesse: If you were a creationist, my assertions of "no it isn't" would have exactly the same effect as if I posted pages and pages of statistics, etc.

Same result, simpler solution.</strong>
I hope you aren't a teacher.

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Please, everyone let's keep the emotions in check.

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