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yguy · 07-24-2003, 09:27 AM

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Originally posted by Biff the unclean
Please read Mark 7:9-13 in which Jesus takes the Jews to task for not killing their own children and ignoring god's laws in Lev.

Problem is, we have no reason to think the Jews failed to administer that law any more than they failed to administer the law prescribing death for adultery. Therefore, it makes vastly more sense to think He was upbraiding them for obeying the letter of the law while violating its spirit by constraining members of the congregation to give to the priests what rightly belonged to the parents.

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but fails to mention his own ignoring of the same set of laws when it came to the adulterous woman. Guess he like whores more than kids

He never told anyone not to stone that woman.

Biff the unclean · 07-24-2003, 09:29 AM

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If the child doesn't repent, that would be a yes. Lots of kids did that in 60's america, and lots of them ended up dead from drug abuse and the like. Go figure.

I'm sitting here with my mouth open hoping that this is a joke whose humor is too hip and dry for me to get.

Mageth · 07-24-2003, 09:52 AM

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If the child doesn't repent, that would be a yes. Lots of kids did that in 60's america, and lots of them ended up dead from drug abuse and the like. Go figure.

And lots of kids in the '60s didn't, and lots of them ended up dead in Vietnam. Go figure.

Mageth · 07-24-2003, 09:54 AM

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No, because I don't have that authority. Taking the OT at face value, it appears the Israelites at the time of Moses did, not yet having descended to such hypocrisy as the pharisees demonstrated.

You wouldn't kill your kid because yoy don't have the authority? Might makes right, huh?

One more time, a fine example of where religious "morality" takes us.

Treacle Worshipper · 07-24-2003, 09:56 AM

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Originally posted by Biff the unclean
I'm sitting here with my mouth open hoping that this is a joke whose humor is too hip and dry for me to get.

yguy gives a direct question a direct answer, can't fault him for that.

Thanks, yguy.

Don't have to agree with him about anything, tho'.

TW

Mageth · 07-24-2003, 09:57 AM

He never told anyone not to stone that woman.

Note that Jesus said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." Now, since Jesus himself didn't immediately whack her upside the head with a convenient rock, what does that tell us about Jesus?

yguy · 07-24-2003, 10:00 AM

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You wouldn't kill your kid because yoy don't have the authority? Might makes right, huh?

You have it backwards.

Mageth · 07-24-2003, 10:01 AM

"Right makes might" doesn't make much sense. Tell me how that would work.

yguy · 07-24-2003, 10:01 AM

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He never told anyone not to stone that woman.

Note that Jesus said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." Now, since Jesus himself didn't immediately whack her upside the head with a convenient rock, what does that tell us about Jesus?

I dunno. Gimme a hint.

yguy · 07-24-2003, 10:05 AM

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"Right makes might" doesn't make much sense. Tell me how that would work.

All you have to do is look at WWII. It was our sense of justice which gave us the motivation beat the Axis powers to a pulp - and which also led us, having them at our feet, not to grind their faces into the dirt as they'd have done to us, but to help them back up.

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07-24-2003, 09:57 AM	#546
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	He never told anyone not to stone that woman. Note that Jesus said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." Now, since Jesus himself didn't immediately whack her upside the head with a convenient rock, what does that tell us about Jesus?

07-24-2003, 10:01 AM	#548
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	"Right makes might" doesn't make much sense. Tell me how that would work.

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