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Lord Asriel · 10-16-2002, 06:49 AM

Put it this way, a spoon bending Uri Gellar would certainly be fitting revenge for all the spoons that Uri has bent in the past.

Bible Humper · 10-16-2002, 08:39 AM

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If JESUS used a wand, I know that the Bible would have something to say about it. But instead of a wand, the Bible says that Jesus got His power from the LORD!

But you missed my earlier point, why couldn't the wand have been enchanted by the LORD for Jesus to use during his ministry?

Mageth · 10-16-2002, 09:23 AM

the Bible says that Jesus got His power from the LORD

And Star Wars says Luke got his power from the Force! Spiderman was bitten by an escaped experimental spider! Fiction writers have to attribute their superheroes' powers to something.

Baidarka · 10-16-2002, 10:00 AM

Moses used a staff
What is a wand after all if not a small staff?

Vibr8gKiwi · 10-16-2002, 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by Boro Nut:
<strong>No, and it would be too easy to fake. If Uri was bending, how would you know it was the spoon doing it? Its much more likely it was hidden magnets.</strong>

Actually according to various skeptics he just bends the spoon with his hands, table, or whatever is around. He's just good at misdirection and hiding what he's doing.

Maybe Jesus just had a live Lazarus up his sleeve

Marduk · 10-16-2002, 02:25 PM

Buy a clue guys, BOBBY is pulling your LEG!

Vibr8gKiwi · 10-16-2002, 03:49 PM

OOooooOOoOoO looked like a troll. Bobby looks like what he claims: a 13 year old Christian kid.

Doubting Didymus · 10-16-2002, 04:05 PM

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Originally posted by Vibr8gKiwi:

Actually according to various skeptics he just bends the spoon with his hands, table, or whatever is around. He's just good at misdirection and hiding what he's doing.

Just to clean up the mess that Boro has left all over the place, the joke is that the SPOON was bending URI. "spoon bending uri". Get it?

Ha. ... Ha.

Uzzah · 10-16-2002, 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by Baidarka:
Not a beardless youth but a Romanized Jesus who shaves. Which brings up the possibility that Jesus may have been Romanized.
When Rabbi Akiva went to Rome he had a debate with a beardless castrato. At some point in the debate Akiva insults the man with “a beard is a mans glory”.
My point is that a shaved Jesus would have been a non-traditionalist. We know that artists have sometimes depicted Jesus as one of their own. We have seen images of African, Chinese and German Jesus(es) so this could just be a Roman depiction of a Roman Jesus, or could it be an early and accurate depiction of the 1st century Romanized magician behind the Jesus story?[/QB]

Actually in just doing a quick search on google of "jesus depicted as a beardless youth" I came across quite a few sites. It seems that the early Pre-Constantine depictations of jesus were actually of a "youth" (someone who could not grow a beard) because they wanted to associate him with apollo.

A fairly good site can be found here discussing it along with pictures of early art depicting youthful jesus as the "good shepherd" (to view the pics, click "view index")

<a href="http://www.ccnmtl.columbia.edu/projects/mmt/augustine/insts/transitional_age.html" target="_blank">http://www.ccnmtl.columbia.edu/projects/mmt/augustine/insts/transitional_age.html</A>

You get more of the same from this site as well, halfway down..

<a href="http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/rels/002/Christianity/earlyart.html" target="_blank">http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/rels/002/Christianity/earlyart.html</A>

Here's a good head shot of apollo...it's hard not to see some resemblance between the two..

<a href="http://members.tripod.com/~Poseidon64/apollo.jpg" target="_blank">http://members.tripod.com/~Poseidon64/apollo.jpg</A>

Here you have Apollo under a different name "Helios" riding a horse. The crown of light to me is extremely revealing.

<a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/image?lookup=1992.05.0573" target="_blank">http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/image?lookup=1992.05.0573</A>

Hope I didn't bore anyone or stray too far off topic.

Uzzah

Boro Nut · 10-17-2002, 03:49 AM

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Originally posted by Lord Asriel:
<strong>Mind you, it is very easy to miss Boro's points.</strong>

Not now. We have more points than we know what to do with. We're even above Man Utd.

Boro Nut

I know, I can hardly believe it either.

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Lord Asriel Regular Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Essex, UK Posts: 467	Put it this way, a spoon bending Uri Gellar would certainly be fitting revenge for all the spoons that Uri has bent in the past.

10-16-2002, 09:23 AM	#33
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	the Bible says that Jesus got His power from the LORD And Star Wars says Luke got his power from the Force! Spiderman was bitten by an escaped experimental spider! Fiction writers have to attribute their superheroes' powers to something.

10-16-2002, 10:00 AM	#34
Baidarka Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 590	Moses used a staff What is a wand after all if not a small staff?

10-16-2002, 02:25 PM	#36
Marduk Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: the 10th planet Posts: 5,065	Buy a clue guys, BOBBY is pulling your LEG!

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