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Jewel · 07-12-2003, 11:51 AM

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An off-campus Christian education program was approved for a full year Thursday for one Richmond County school, but some school board members have growing concerns about the controversial course.

Member Kenneth Echols wondered whether asking organizers to hold it after school would prevent pupils from missing part of their physical-education classes.

"Kids need Christianity," he said. But "I know it really interrupts the teachers and the classes."

On Thursday, the school board voted 8-2 to approve the instruction committee's recommendation to extend the pilot program at John Milledge Elementary School, which had 17 pupils last spring leave school to attend a weekly 45-minute session at Crawford Avenue Baptist Church. The program is run and funded by Christian Learning Centers, and costs the school district nothing, school board member Helen Minchew said.

Members John Seitz and Y.N. Myers Jr. voted against extending the program, but gave no specific reasons during a discussion period.

Board attorney Pete Fletcher said he plans to formulate an evaluation to see how the school is affected by allowing the children to leave school. He stressed that the school system would not evaluate the Bible-based curriculum because the system must remain neutral.

SLD · 07-12-2003, 12:34 PM

I would recommend that Augusta Atheists/freethinkers and other like minded organize and form a class of instruction that they intend to teach after school hours. If the school board denies them the opportunity file a law suit. There's nothing like a lawsuit to make the school board realize what they are doing - and anything that generates legal fees is fine with me.

SLD
(who wishes he could practice law in Augusta)

Buffman · 07-12-2003, 01:11 PM

SLD

Superb! A mirror can be the secularist's best legal and ethical weapon in the advocacy of critical thinking.

fromtheright · 07-13-2003, 09:54 AM

SLD,

Actually, I hope that happens and that it is approved, and then see if atheists still decide to file suit.

Arken · 07-13-2003, 10:06 AM

Official bible study? Sounds great! Let's make sure the elementary school kids spend a lot of time studying Song of Solomon. That ought to make the parents happy.

faust · 07-13-2003, 02:28 PM

"Kids need Christianity" umm wtf. Why do these people never stop to think about what is coming out of their mouths? Why would kids need christianity? were there kids before christ? did the world end? is it the "these kids these days" syndrome?

I can't believe someone could walk around and say "kids need christianity" without anyone commenting at least, "what on earth for?"

Kids need Xianity like a hole in the head.

nogods4me · 07-14-2003, 08:12 AM

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Originally posted by fromtheright
SLD,

Actually, I hope that happens and that it is approved, and then see if atheists still decide to file suit.

No need to. DO you doubt for one second if a "secular humanist" or other type program were actually approved that even a nanosecond would pass before the religious freaks would file suit?

gravitybow · 07-14-2003, 10:03 AM

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Originally posted by Arken
Let's make sure the elementary school kids spend a lot of time studying Song of Solomon.

But only as a pop-up book.

lowmagnet · 07-14-2003, 03:10 PM

I feel I must respond to 'kids need christianity' with the following:

KIDS NEED PHYSICAL EDUCATION.

I was at Cedar Point this past weekend, and I shit you not there were 8 year olds that were approaching the shape of a ball. There were many midriffs bared and I have to tell you:

THEY FAIL IT

I don't think they understand that this is how those people who weigh 300+ pounds get their start. And the parents just feed them another candy bar to shut them up.

They need christianity, indeed.

SLD · 07-14-2003, 08:39 PM

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Originally posted by fromtheright
SLD,

Actually, I hope that happens and that it is approved, and then see if atheists still decide to file suit.

Why would they sue in that situation? The lawsuit would be for the denial of freethinkers rights?

Here's a serious question (and I don't really know Augusta School Board members): Would the Augusta School Board in fact vote against a secularist using the school to promote secularism and non-religion in clear violation of the free exercise clause and Supreme Court precedent? Or would they in fact do the right thing and let students choose which one they would attend? I'm sure that the parents would freak out, and demand a no vote. But would their attorney tell them they can't approve one without the other?

SLD

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07-12-2003, 12:34 PM	#2
SLD Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Birmingham, Alabama Posts: 4,109	I would recommend that Augusta Atheists/freethinkers and other like minded organize and form a class of instruction that they intend to teach after school hours. If the school board denies them the opportunity file a law suit. There's nothing like a lawsuit to make the school board realize what they are doing - and anything that generates legal fees is fine with me. SLD (who wishes he could practice law in Augusta)

07-12-2003, 01:11 PM	#3
Buffman Beloved Deceased Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: central Florida Posts: 3,546	SLD Superb! A mirror can be the secularist's best legal and ethical weapon in the advocacy of critical thinking.

07-13-2003, 09:54 AM	#4
fromtheright Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 633	SLD, Actually, I hope that happens and that it is approved, and then see if atheists still decide to file suit.

07-13-2003, 10:06 AM	#5
Arken Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: North Hollywood, CA Posts: 6,303	Official bible study? Sounds great! Let's make sure the elementary school kids spend a lot of time studying Song of Solomon. That ought to make the parents happy.

07-13-2003, 02:28 PM	#6
faust Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: baton rouge, la Posts: 539	"Kids need Christianity" umm wtf. Why do these people never stop to think about what is coming out of their mouths? Why would kids need christianity? were there kids before christ? did the world end? is it the "these kids these days" syndrome? I can't believe someone could walk around and say "kids need christianity" without anyone commenting at least, "what on earth for?" Kids need Xianity like a hole in the head.

07-14-2003, 03:10 PM	#9
lowmagnet Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Raleigh, NC Posts: 959	I feel I must respond to 'kids need christianity' with the following: KIDS NEED PHYSICAL EDUCATION. I was at Cedar Point this past weekend, and I shit you not there were 8 year olds that were approaching the shape of a ball. There were many midriffs bared and I have to tell you: THEY FAIL IT I don't think they understand that this is how those people who weigh 300+ pounds get their start. And the parents just feed them another candy bar to shut them up. They need christianity, indeed.

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