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Hail · 01-16-2003, 08:03 PM

If you believe the God of eternal love is upset with makind and mankind has to do something to make it right. Can you then apporve of your fellowman without flying in the face of God?

Thieving Magpie · 01-16-2003, 08:07 PM

I understand very little of what you just said, but to quote Billy Corgan:

"If there is a God
I know he likes to rock
He likes his loud guitars
And spiders from Mars"

Now then, call this inappropriate if you want, but I think it is as apt as anything on this board.

Yeah.

Hail · 01-16-2003, 08:13 PM

Well Maggie thats too bad. Sorry you don't understand.

Amie · 01-16-2003, 08:26 PM

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Originally posted by Hail
If you believe the God of eternal love is upset with makind and mankind has to do something to make it right. Can you then apporve of your fellowman without flying in the face of God?

yes.

seebs · 01-16-2003, 10:31 PM

Put me in the "not getting it" camp.

Hail · 01-16-2003, 11:04 PM

OK
Man is said to have fallen from grace with God.
Man must now work to get himself back into God's good graces.
Say now you believe in and love God.
If you are trying to get into good graces with God can you go ahead and approve of those who you are convinced that God dissapprovees of?

seebs · 01-16-2003, 11:08 PM

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Originally posted by Hail
OK
Man is said to have fallen from grace with God.
Man must now work to get himself back into God's good graces.
Say now you believe in and love God.
If you are trying to get into good graces with God can you go ahead and approve of those who you are convinced that God dissapprovees of?

There are no *people* I am convinced that God disapproves of; there are specific beliefs, attitudes, or perhaps actions. How does God deal with people whose actions He disapproves of? Well, Christ said He came for the lost, not the saved. Seems like a good example to me.

Should I "approve" of sin? No. Should I give approval to "sinners"? Yes, in that they are just as important and valuable as I am.

Hail · 01-16-2003, 11:16 PM

Seebs:There are no *people* I am convinced that God disapproves of

This is not how many religous people behave though. It can be said that way but I think the repeated wars says different.

seebs · 01-16-2003, 11:25 PM

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Originally posted by Hail
Seebs:There are no *people* I am convinced that God disapproves of

This is not how many religous people behave though. It can be said that way but I think the repeated wars says different.

I agree. I believe these people are mistaken. They believe I'm mistaken. Someday, perhaps, we'll all find out.

Hail · 01-16-2003, 11:29 PM

Good to hear that. It would be good when it happens and good too if it's not when it's too late.

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01-16-2003, 08:07 PM	#2
Thieving Magpie Regular Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 253	I understand very little of what you just said, but to quote Billy Corgan: "If there is a God I know he likes to rock He likes his loud guitars And spiders from Mars" Now then, call this inappropriate if you want, but I think it is as apt as anything on this board. Yeah.

01-16-2003, 08:13 PM	#3
Hail Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 60	Well Maggie thats too bad. Sorry you don't understand.

01-16-2003, 10:31 PM	#5
seebs Contributor Join Date: May 2002 Location: Saint Paul, MN Posts: 24,524	Put me in the "not getting it" camp.

01-16-2003, 11:04 PM	#6
Hail Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 60	OK Man is said to have fallen from grace with God. Man must now work to get himself back into God's good graces. Say now you believe in and love God. If you are trying to get into good graces with God can you go ahead and approve of those who you are convinced that God dissapprovees of?

01-16-2003, 11:16 PM	#8
Hail Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 60	Seebs:There are no people I am convinced that God disapproves of This is not how many religous people behave though. It can be said that way but I think the repeated wars says different.

01-16-2003, 11:29 PM	#10
Hail Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 60	Good to hear that. It would be good when it happens and good too if it's not when it's too late.

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