mark9950

In many passages the bible describes the earth was flat.Many people claim that was a problem because there was no hebrew word for sphere so they had to use circle.

Even though there is no hebrew word for sphere there is a hebrew word for ball,the word is dure:ball,turn, round bout.

This word is only used once in Isiah 22:18 according to strongs concordance

This word would be best suited to describe the sphereical nature of the earth if those ancient peoples believed GOD created the earth spherical and not flat.

But as we know that the bible is Gods word the earth is flat and galileo is wrong and those NASA pictures were doctored for an anti-God agenda by the communists to make God look like a liar.LOL

keyser_soze

Are you kidding? They(being the brainless percentage of our population) will DO ANY MENTAL GYMNASTICS NECESSARY to keep their faith despite freaking common sense, and their own book. They cannot make it work if read literally, so they will INTERPRET in any way they can.

GakuseiDon

Tektonic's take: [link]http://www.tektonics.org/tekton_03_03_01.html[/link]

mark9950

Who wrote the bible?

The divine inspiration of God or ancient man.

If GOD wrote the bible things would be well understood without any confusion.I do not think if there was a real GOD he would want sooooo much confusion and misunderstanding over his word.

If man wrote the bible without a GOD than there would be and is these problems of understanding.

Man wrote his ancient religion(not truth)about how he perceived things through his religion.

In summary GOD does not exist,if he does he needs to go back to school,learn how to write and stop telling us fasehood lies.It looks like this GOD breaks his own commandment.

malookiemaloo

Why do we talk about the sun rising when we know perfectly well that it is still?

na na na na na!!


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CJD

I must say, Mr. Soze, that you, with a mere slight of hand, discard every possible nuanced reading of the text, thereby allowing only the typical fundamentalist hermeneutic to be used. In other words, what you say regarding not being able to read it literally and so forth, betrays your a priori committment to making sure God does not exist. Let me put it more clearly, if someone were to read a poem as a chronological scientific textbook, then that someone is not reading the poem "literally." To read a poem literally, is to read the text like a poem. Unless you have solid hermeneutical reasons for reading, for example, the early parts of Genesis like a 20th century fundamentalist, I suggest you dig a little deeper into your studies.

Go here http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.p...5&pagenumber=1 if you are interested.

keyser_soze

CJD

Keyser, good enough. Maybe just temper the generalizations?

Cheers,

keyser_soze

Maybe on Tuesays.....

Butters

The Bible teaches that the Earth is a flat disk, covered by a solid bowl of sky, through which God opens doors and windows to allow rain, hail, and wind through. In the sky are small pinpoints of light, stars. This view of the cosmos was held by the Egyptians,
Mesopotamians, Summarians, Babylonians, and Hebrews. Their writings and descriptions of the Earth and the cosmos are almost identical. If you look at all their writings, you can see they all match, they are all describing the same thing in the same terms. In the view of History, anthropology, and archaeology, there is no question that these people all viewed the cosmos the same. All the descriptions fit, the same terms are used, and, in cultures without modern instruments, is actually quite logical. The only problem is,is that it's wrong. Well, that’s no problem for the Egyptians,
Mesopotamians, Summarians, Babylonians, but the Hebrew story is in the Bible, so we can't accept that the Bible is wrong, so we take a reading that fits perfectly with all the evidence we have, and try to shoehorn it to fit with our modern understanding of the cosmos, unfortunately, this does not work, except in the minds of the desperate fanatic.

Here is a challenge. If the Bible teaches that the Earth is round, show me any records that the Hebrews believed this prior to the Greeks. Surely, this concept would have been revolutionary, show me the Hebrew writings supporting their position. Show me records of Egyptians,
Mesopotamians, Summarians,or Babylonians contesting this world view. Actually they would have ridiculed the Hebrews for such a stance, as they sould have. Show me their arguments of how life could exist upside down on the other side of a globe. (This is always the first argument against a round Earth.) Show me anything other than a tortured interpretations of scripture. The same scripture that has been used over and over IN SUPPORT OF a flat Earth.

Then answer me this. If God inspired the bible to show the true nature of the cosmos, why did he use the same words as the rest of the region used to describe a flat earth? Why use terns like "unmoving earth" "dome of the sky" "windows of heaven" etc., etc. These terms are all used by the other cultures to describe a flat earth. If we read all these texts in isolation, you couldn't even pick out which were from the Bible, and which were from another culture.

Robert Turkel points out that the Hebrews didn't have a word corrasponding to our word "Sphere" but he completly misses the point. They didn't have such a word, because they had no need of it, believing, as everyone else at the time, that the earth was flat. Of course he also tries some clumsy aplolgitics to explain why they didn't use the word for "ball" in describing the earth, wich would have been perfectly reasonable.

Now if the bible had said. The Earth is round, it orbits around the sun, which is just another star, seen close up, etc.etc., well, the Jews would have been laughed at. But with the advent of modern instruments, they would have been vindicated, and we would all be Christians now, or Jews