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Old 08-30-2002, 04:41 PM   #1
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Post Sure way to achieve salvation?

This came up towards the end of the <a href="http://iidb.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=50&t=000555" target="_blank">Convince me there IS a God</a> thread over in EoG, but I think it's an interesting topic in its own right that deserves some discussion:

Christians seem to believe that (1) infants have souls, and (2) infants who die will be saved, but it doesn't necessarily follow that (3) a newborn infant has any kind of free will, or had any choice in its own salvation. What choices is an infant capable of making? Yet if this infant's soul is admitted directly to heaven, that kind of blows the whole free will issue out of the water.

But it also raises a second sticky issue: the surest way for a parent to ensure that his or her children are saved is to murder them at birth.

Surely anybody is better off saved than unsaved? And surely heaven is a better place for any soul to be than here on earth? There might be some concern for the parent's own salvation, but he or she can always repent and be saved later, right? So why not kill your children, and give them a free ticket to Heaven?

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